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Anyone else find this title unparseable? Even after I realised "Gated" is a proper noun, not an adjective

by pxeger1 5y ago

Ndymium 5y ago
> X challenges (verb) Y to Z in order to reach you where X = Gated, Y = unknown senders, and Z = donate to charity.
- jimmytidey 5y ago
  Only on HN would this count as addressing the point that the title is poorly written.
  - Ndymium 5y ago
    I guess I missed the point, as I provided an example on how to parse it, since it was deemed "unparseable".
- xondono 5y ago
  I still have no idea what the title is about. The “clickbaitiness” of HN posts is increasing, and I don’t like it.
  - Operyl 5y ago
    They filter your email and send challenges to unknown senders that require they donate to charity in order to get their email in your inbox. I agree with your statement (in regards to other articles), but the title is definitely exactly what it is (just confusing because of the product name).
  - jasode 5y ago
    >I still have no idea what the title is about. The “clickbaitiness” of HN posts The post's title isn't clickbait. It's a wording style that simply has many auxiliary verbs and grammar articles removed.[1] Anyway, the same sentence with extra helper words in [] may help in parsing it: "[The company called] Gated [has a junk email filtering service that issues] challenges [to] unknown senders [by forcing them] to donate to charity in order to reach you"* [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_style#Headline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_style#Headline
    - xondono 5y ago
      > The post's title isn't clickbait. Debatable, it’s definitely written that way here on HN because not knowing what’s about triggers our curiosity. Is the educated version of “You won’t believe what happened next”.
Cerium 5y ago
I had trouble with it too. I think it's because if you read it as a newspaper headline you expect it to be two sentences, broken after the first three words. "Gated challenges unknown. Senders to donate to charity in order to reach you."
chrononaut 5y ago
Yes, it reads like a classic garden-path sentence, and took multiple re-reads for me to get it right. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence
resoluteteeth 5y ago
I was able to parse it but I still had no idea what it meant

Anyone else find this title unparseable? Even after I realised "Gated" is a proper noun, not an adjective

Ndymium 5y ago

> X challenges (verb) Y to Z in order to reach you where X = Gated, Y = unknown senders, and Z = donate to charity.

jimmytidey 5y ago
Only on HN would this count as addressing the point that the title is poorly written.
- Ndymium 5y ago
  I guess I missed the point, as I provided an example on how to parse it, since it was deemed "unparseable".
xondono 5y ago
I still have no idea what the title is about. The “clickbaitiness” of HN posts is increasing, and I don’t like it.
- Operyl 5y ago
  They filter your email and send challenges to unknown senders that require they donate to charity in order to get their email in your inbox. I agree with your statement (in regards to other articles), but the title is definitely exactly what it is (just confusing because of the product name).
- jasode 5y ago
  >I still have no idea what the title is about. The “clickbaitiness” of HN posts The post's title isn't clickbait. It's a wording style that simply has many auxiliary verbs and grammar articles removed.[1] Anyway, the same sentence with extra helper words in [] may help in parsing it: "[The company called] Gated [has a junk email filtering service that issues] challenges [to] unknown senders [by forcing them] to donate to charity in order to reach you"* [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_style#Headline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_style#Headline
  - xondono 5y ago
    > The post's title isn't clickbait. Debatable, it’s definitely written that way here on HN because not knowing what’s about triggers our curiosity. Is the educated version of “You won’t believe what happened next”.

Cerium 5y ago

I had trouble with it too. I think it's because if you read it as a newspaper headline you expect it to be two sentences, broken after the first three words. "Gated challenges unknown. Senders to donate to charity in order to reach you."

chrononaut 5y ago

Yes, it reads like a classic garden-path sentence, and took multiple re-reads for me to get it right. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence

resoluteteeth 5y ago

I was able to parse it but I still had no idea what it meant