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Your response is pedantic. It is statistically an outlier. "There's no accompanying analysis to support its rejection from the comparison, let alone an attempt

Your response is pedantic. It is statistically an outlier. "There's no accompanying analysis to support its rejection from the comparison, let alone an attempt to quantify exactly how much of an outlier it actually is." There's no accompanying analysis to support its inclusion in the comparison, let alone an attempt to quantify exactly how comparable it actually is. Claiming Sweden underperformed Denmark is also a far cry from claiming that Sweden underpeformed other Nordic countries as a whole, as the original article does.

ModernMech 5y ago
> It is statistically an outlier. Is it though? Because neither you nor the linked piece have provided any framework by which to call it an outlier. Calling something a statistical outlier has no meaning without statistics. > There's no accompanying analysis to support its inclusion in the comparison The case for its inclusion is the fact that it's a country in the region, and we're comparing countries in the region. You don't need a good reason to include it, you need a good reason to exclude it, especially when it's the only one excluded, and again, especially when the title of the piece contains the word "vindicated". Calling something an outlier and causally tossing it aside, especially when it contradicts your point is classic cherry picking.
- CryptoPunk 5y ago
  >>Is it though? Because neither you nor the linked piece have provided any framework by which to call it an outlier. Calling something a statistical outlier has no meaning without statistics. That's entirely false. The study provided the framework, which is a map and graph showing the countries of Europe and both their population weighted density, and their COVID mortality rates, respectively: https://i0.wp.com/swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/population-density-europe-e1639867067166.jpg?w=1472&ssl=1 https://i0.wp.com/swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/popul... https://i0.wp.com/swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/sweden-europe-mortality-comparison.png?w=1166&ssl=1 https://i0.wp.com/swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/swede... It's plainly a statistical outlier. >>The case for its inclusion is the fact that it's a country in the region, and we're comparing countries in the region. There's no accompanying analysis to support grouping all countries of a region together for a comparison. You need a good reason to include it, given you're using it a reference point to criticize a partricular country's response.

ModernMech 5y ago

> It is statistically an outlier. Is it though? Because neither you nor the linked piece have provided any framework by which to call it an outlier. Calling something a statistical outlier has no meaning without statistics. > There's no accompanying analysis to support its inclusion in the comparison The case for its inclusion is the fact that it's a country in the region, and we're comparing countries in the region. You don't need a good reason to include it, you need a good reason to exclude it, especially when it's the only one excluded, and again, especially when the title of the piece contains the word "vindicated". Calling something an outlier and causally tossing it aside, especially when it contradicts your point is classic cherry picking.

CryptoPunk 5y ago
>>Is it though? Because neither you nor the linked piece have provided any framework by which to call it an outlier. Calling something a statistical outlier has no meaning without statistics. That's entirely false. The study provided the framework, which is a map and graph showing the countries of Europe and both their population weighted density, and their COVID mortality rates, respectively: https://i0.wp.com/swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/population-density-europe-e1639867067166.jpg?w=1472&ssl=1 https://i0.wp.com/swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/popul... https://i0.wp.com/swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/sweden-europe-mortality-comparison.png?w=1166&ssl=1 https://i0.wp.com/swprs.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/swede... It's plainly a statistical outlier. >>The case for its inclusion is the fact that it's a country in the region, and we're comparing countries in the region. There's no accompanying analysis to support grouping all countries of a region together for a comparison. You need a good reason to include it, given you're using it a reference point to criticize a partricular country's response.