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This thing is totally insane. Instructions are not clear at all and the risk that someone bakes a phone in a MWO or doesn't any other harmful thing is rather hi

This thing is totally insane. Instructions are not clear at all and the risk that someone bakes a phone in a MWO or doesn't any other harmful thing is rather high. Please remove this post.

dzhiurgis 5y ago
So hard not to automatically press start. But one could also use fridge for this test.
- jbothma 5y ago
  I don't know, I'm not sure the fridge would give a good indication of the microwave's leakiness.
  - 1kurac 5y ago
    Neither does TCP over WiFi, really.
  - powerbroker 5y ago
    It might, if someone put their router in the microwave, simultaneously with the phone in the fridge... but at best it would prove that both the microwave and the fridge have leakiness.
- mpreda 5y ago
  In most cases, the fridge won't fit.
verve_rat 5y ago
I strongly disagree. If you are idiot enough to microwave your own phone, that's on you. This post is fine, and interesting.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  Calling people idiots for making mistakes is about the most boring thing I can imagine. I agree it shouldn’t be deleted, and that it’s interesting. But everyone flubs it from time to time, even people who like to think they’re above that.
  - verve_rat 5y ago
    There is a difference between making an understandable mistake and doing something that should make you ashamed for being that dumb. Nuking your phone in the microwave is in the same category as baking it in the oven. You really shouldn't be surprised when you don't have a working phone anymore. I don't think it is wrong of us to expect better from a bunch of adults. They should know better.
    - eyelidlessness 5y ago
      Look. Calling people idiots or stupid is just a shitty thing to do. Shaming people for not having the same information, recall, thought process as you is never going to help them better meet your expectations of their mental faculties. It might even have the opposite impact to some degree, depending on how they react to the insult. It doesn’t matter one bit whether you think someone should think it through the way you would. People routinely disappoint on that front, and it’s almost always because people have expectations that are closer to their own experience and thought process than they realize. Personal anecdote, for your judgy amusement: a couple weeks ago I fell hard on the pavement of a very busy arterial road. I was running behind schedule, hurriedly looking for a chance to beat the crosswalk signals if there was a safe gap in traffic. I was paying attention to the height of the curb as I went, because it’s unusually high off the road at one intersection then gradually gets closer to a normal height in the course of a block. Trouble is, I wasn’t paying close enough attention, and I misjudged the height by about a foot. I stepped into the road in a gap in traffic, but there wasn’t anything under my foot when I stepped down. Before I know it, I was sprawled out on the street, gratefully with a busted up hand not a busted up head. And more gratefully, with an audience sitting at the next red light, not still traveling towards where I fell. I was, indeed, embarrassed by all of this. And any one of the people who saw it happen surely could have called me stupid. Maybe they even did, but I’m happy they kept it to themselves at the time. I realized my error as soon as it happened. What good would have come of insulting me on top of that?
ganzuul 5y ago
You need a basic level of competence to be allowed in the kitchen. - That is where most domestic accidents happen. Funny how kitchen stuff was thought to be women's work once.
- gruez 5y ago
  >Funny how kitchen stuff was thought to be women's work once. Clarification: domestic kitchen stuff was thought to be women's work, professional kitchen stuff was thought to be men's work (and still is[1]). [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-45486646 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-45486646
  - ganzuul 5y ago
    That article doesn't seem to talk about safety at all.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  I have read this several times over and have no idea how you could mean it which isn’t sexist af. Edit: okay maybe I can imagine you’re saying that women have been competent in the kitchen and men [/other gender identifying people?] have demonstrated not being as competent. I’m really trying to stretch credulity to read this in good faith.
  - ganzuul 5y ago
    Women are widely known to be more attentive and dexterous in e.g. electronics assembly. Surely this translates to the domestic kitchen as well. Sexist? Please, shove that word. This is simple facts about life.
    - eyelidlessness 5y ago
      > Sexist? Please, shove that word. Respectfully, fuck no.
fauria 5y ago
Agree that the warning: note: do not turn your microwave on for ANY portion of this test might not be visible or clear enough. I think OP should consider updating the instructions and set as a first step: 1. Unplug the microwave.
- AnotherGoodName 5y ago
  >Unplug the microwave. Pretty sure you need the earth though right?
  - skeptikal 5y ago
    I keep hearing that for Faraday cages but its not clear to me why. Why should it be grounded? The cell signal in the Faraday cage causes a mirror signal on the cages inner surface and the cage’s conductivity ensures that the potential is zero elsewhere in the cage. Why do I need the ground? Is it a consequence of not having a perfect conductor?
    - AnotherGoodName 5y ago
      The case itself becomes an antenna if it's not and just re-resonates the signal.
      - skeptikal 5y ago
        Does it though? At what frequency? In the limit of f=DC this is trivially not true. Also, if that were the case, an airplane couldn't be made into a Faraday cage. Also, the cage+Earth system would itself be an antenna. If you need ground for a topologically imperfect cage, maybe… but I doubt it. I think (but I don't know!) this is like the legends surrounding engine torque car guys believe. Electrical engineers putting everything to ground because they got burned

This thing is totally insane. Instructions are not clear at all and the risk that someone bakes a phone in a MWO or doesn't any other harmful thing is rather high. Please remove this post.

dzhiurgis 5y ago

So hard not to automatically press start. But one could also use fridge for this test.

jbothma 5y ago
I don't know, I'm not sure the fridge would give a good indication of the microwave's leakiness.
- 1kurac 5y ago
  Neither does TCP over WiFi, really.
- powerbroker 5y ago
  It might, if someone put their router in the microwave, simultaneously with the phone in the fridge... but at best it would prove that both the microwave and the fridge have leakiness.
mpreda 5y ago
In most cases, the fridge won't fit.

verve_rat 5y ago

I strongly disagree. If you are idiot enough to microwave your own phone, that's on you. This post is fine, and interesting.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
Calling people idiots for making mistakes is about the most boring thing I can imagine. I agree it shouldn’t be deleted, and that it’s interesting. But everyone flubs it from time to time, even people who like to think they’re above that.
- verve_rat 5y ago
  There is a difference between making an understandable mistake and doing something that should make you ashamed for being that dumb. Nuking your phone in the microwave is in the same category as baking it in the oven. You really shouldn't be surprised when you don't have a working phone anymore. I don't think it is wrong of us to expect better from a bunch of adults. They should know better.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    Look. Calling people idiots or stupid is just a shitty thing to do. Shaming people for not having the same information, recall, thought process as you is never going to help them better meet your expectations of their mental faculties. It might even have the opposite impact to some degree, depending on how they react to the insult. It doesn’t matter one bit whether you think someone should think it through the way you would. People routinely disappoint on that front, and it’s almost always because people have expectations that are closer to their own experience and thought process than they realize. Personal anecdote, for your judgy amusement: a couple weeks ago I fell hard on the pavement of a very busy arterial road. I was running behind schedule, hurriedly looking for a chance to beat the crosswalk signals if there was a safe gap in traffic. I was paying attention to the height of the curb as I went, because it’s unusually high off the road at one intersection then gradually gets closer to a normal height in the course of a block. Trouble is, I wasn’t paying close enough attention, and I misjudged the height by about a foot. I stepped into the road in a gap in traffic, but there wasn’t anything under my foot when I stepped down. Before I know it, I was sprawled out on the street, gratefully with a busted up hand not a busted up head. And more gratefully, with an audience sitting at the next red light, not still traveling towards where I fell. I was, indeed, embarrassed by all of this. And any one of the people who saw it happen surely could have called me stupid. Maybe they even did, but I’m happy they kept it to themselves at the time. I realized my error as soon as it happened. What good would have come of insulting me on top of that?

ganzuul 5y ago

You need a basic level of competence to be allowed in the kitchen. - That is where most domestic accidents happen. Funny how kitchen stuff was thought to be women's work once.

gruez 5y ago
>Funny how kitchen stuff was thought to be women's work once. Clarification: domestic kitchen stuff was thought to be women's work, professional kitchen stuff was thought to be men's work (and still is[1]). [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-45486646 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-45486646
- ganzuul 5y ago
  That article doesn't seem to talk about safety at all.
eyelidlessness 5y ago
I have read this several times over and have no idea how you could mean it which isn’t sexist af. Edit: okay maybe I can imagine you’re saying that women have been competent in the kitchen and men [/other gender identifying people?] have demonstrated not being as competent. I’m really trying to stretch credulity to read this in good faith.
- ganzuul 5y ago
  Women are widely known to be more attentive and dexterous in e.g. electronics assembly. Surely this translates to the domestic kitchen as well. Sexist? Please, shove that word. This is simple facts about life.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    > Sexist? Please, shove that word. Respectfully, fuck no.

fauria 5y ago

Agree that the warning: note: do not turn your microwave on for ANY portion of this test might not be visible or clear enough. I think OP should consider updating the instructions and set as a first step: 1. Unplug the microwave.

AnotherGoodName 5y ago
>Unplug the microwave. Pretty sure you need the earth though right?
- skeptikal 5y ago
  I keep hearing that for Faraday cages but its not clear to me why. Why should it be grounded? The cell signal in the Faraday cage causes a mirror signal on the cages inner surface and the cage’s conductivity ensures that the potential is zero elsewhere in the cage. Why do I need the ground? Is it a consequence of not having a perfect conductor?
  - AnotherGoodName 5y ago
    The case itself becomes an antenna if it's not and just re-resonates the signal.
    - skeptikal 5y ago
      Does it though? At what frequency? In the limit of f=DC this is trivially not true. Also, if that were the case, an airplane couldn't be made into a Faraday cage. Also, the cage+Earth system would itself be an antenna. If you need ground for a topologically imperfect cage, maybe… but I doubt it. I think (but I don't know!) this is like the legends surrounding engine torque car guys believe. Electrical engineers putting everything to ground because they got burned