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No, provide me the sources if you want to use them as a part of your argument.

• sweetheart 5y ago
  Okay. https://youaretheirvoice.com/pages/the-clear-consensus https://youaretheirvoice.com/pages/the-clear-consensus Enjoy.
  • cercatrova 5y ago
    In an argument, if you're trying to convince the other person to support your beliefs, you wouldn't use clearly biased sources like you did here. I have no argument with you specifically but just pointing it out for the future that people will dismiss any biased sources you give them, which is probably not what you want the outcome to be in an argumentative fashion.
    • sweetheart 5y ago
      You mean Kaiser Permanente? And Harvard Medical School? And The American Institute for Cancer Research? And the British Dietetic Association? And the Mayo Clinic? What biases are you talking about?
      • cercatrova 5y ago
        The site you linked is affiliated with vegan causes, is it not? Just because the sources are from those institutions does not mean they aren't cherry picked for that specific cause. I can also quote journals with conclusions justifying omnivorous consumption as well [0] but those would be just as cherry picked. [0] https://sapienjournal.org/people-who-eat-meat-experience-lower-levels-of-depression-and-anxiety-compared-to-vegans/ https://sapienjournal.org/people-who-eat-meat-experience-low...
        • sweetheart 5y ago
          Mate, the website is just a collection of links to the actual research. I’m being asked for sources, I give tons of very credible sources, and your retort is to just claim that now they are cherry picked? Sure, we can ALWAYS find a source that supports whatever claim we want to make. But let’s look at the general scientific consensus. The overwhelming majority of research indicates that veganism is perfectly healthy. That’s what I linked! Your single journalistic summary of summary about non-causal associations between meat eating and depression don’t undo the general scientific consensus.
          • belorn 5y ago
            If we want the best diet that science has we can look at papers like (https://www.onlinejacc.org/content/76/12/1484 https://www.onlinejacc.org/content/76/12/1484), or rankings like (https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-healthy-eating-diets https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-healthy-eating-diet...), or just go by world health organizations guide at (https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/healthy-diet https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/healthy-die...) In a nutshell, obesity and sugars are the killer regardless if they are vegetarian calories or animal calories. Second comes minerals that effect blood pressure, and third its peoples need for vitamins. A healthy diet is one that avoid health risks. Fiber rich food and fish is linked with lower weight gain. Sugar is linked with tooth decay and obesity, especially that white stuff that get produced by plants. A diet need to balance vitamins and minerals based on how active the individual is. No alcohol, no drugs, no tobacco, no coffee, no added sugar or fructose to water. If its an stimulant then there is risk for harm. A healthy diet should be diversified and balanced.
            • sweetheart 5y ago
              None of the important things you mentioned are difficult on a vegan diet, so I’m confused as to what your point is. You mentioned that there are associations between fish and lower weight gain, but that’s sort of irrelevant because I’m not making the claim that you can’t be healthy while eating animals (though many doctors do!) I agree that all those things are important. So optimize for them and avoid eating animals.