3 ms·
> Second, this article compares being trans with being gay. They're two different things entirely. The only "right" gay people wanted, above being left alone, w
by a_shovel 5y ago
> Second, this article compares being trans with being gay. They're two different things entirely. The only "right" gay people wanted, above being left alone, was equality in law
Presenting this as a difference is a lie. There is no difference. Trans people only want to be left alone and to have equality in the law. (No, misgendering does not qualify as leaving them alone.)
You can solve all of these situations by treating the transgender woman the same way one would treat a cisgender woman in that situation. Nobody is obligated to be comfortable undressing in front of a trans woman, in the same way they are not obligated to be comfortable undressing in front of a cis woman. Nobody's going to call them a bigot just for not being comfortable getting naked in front of a stranger.
Transgender people are liable to get beaten for using the changing room or restroom, so many try to avoid public changing rooms anyways.
> So... Give us self-id because we effectively have it anyway? That doesn't work, particularly if a lot of people are opposed to it.
No, it's more like "Give us self-ID because it will help us, and all the reason anyone will give to oppose it are false." This is what the article is about. It will help them get married with the correct name on the certificate, along with some other boring administrative things, which, like gay marriage, asks absolutely nothing of you. It is entirely irrelevant to your example with changing rooms. The hospital example, which is mostly behind a paywall, seems more to do with a horribly sexist notion popular in Britain that a woman cannot commit rape than with the gender of any parties involved. (Note that I am referring to "rape", not "things that British law would consider rape", which is also subject to this notion.) In any case, it too has nothing to do with GRA reform.
What even is a "sex-based right" anyways? Most legal civil rights are equality rights, which apply to everyone equally.
- raffraffraff 5y ago> Presenting this as a difference is a lie. There is no difference. Trans people only want to be left alone and to have equality in the law. Well, let's just call each other liars then