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The moment you realize HR is there to serve the company's interests, not the employee's, your expectation of them changes.

devmunchies 5y ago
Are there any orgs that don’t serve the company?
- tonyarkles 5y ago
  I say this both being a non-unionized often-contractor, but in some other industries that would be the union. Ignoring all the politics sounds that, growing up I certainly got to witness my dad’s coworkers and union come together to help out their members personally when tragedy struck, as well as planning social events and fundraisers. Some parts of union can be really bad, but they’re not exclusively bad.
- KuhlMensch 5y ago
  In a HR org that is damaging to the company, they always side with the company; What is unique to HR, is that can often turn them AGAINST an individual worker.
owl57 5y ago
I could see the difference with "commodity" employees, and that sucks, but what's the big difference if we are talking about programmers? The company is obviously very interested to make us not want to leave, and also probably interested that we feel like caring about the product.
- brassattax 5y ago
  Possibly true when the programmers are building the company's product. I happen to work for a company where all of IT is a cost center.
- wonderwonder 5y ago
  I think if that was true then large raises would be the norm as they know programmers often leave every couple years for a 20+ % raise.
misslibby 5y ago
Taking good care of employees and contractors can be in the company's interest, though. It's costly to lose them and having to hire new ones, and ex employees talking badly about a company also is not good. (I'd think, I don't work in HR, so no idea what actual directives they have).
Beldin 5y ago
You'd be amazed at how often those coincide if there's not a culture of omerta. It's almost as if happy employees are in a company's interest. Not paramount, but not neglected either.
- alexashka 5y ago
  Culture of omerta - I had to look it up. There'll always be culture of omerta when you don't give someone a piece of the company. If I'm an hourly employee, our interests are not aligned. You don't value me enough to share the wins but I know I'll be sharing in the losses by getting fired. To everyone pretending otherwise - wake the fuck up.

devmunchies 5y ago

Are there any orgs that don’t serve the company?

tonyarkles 5y ago
I say this both being a non-unionized often-contractor, but in some other industries that would be the union. Ignoring all the politics sounds that, growing up I certainly got to witness my dad’s coworkers and union come together to help out their members personally when tragedy struck, as well as planning social events and fundraisers. Some parts of union can be really bad, but they’re not exclusively bad.
KuhlMensch 5y ago
In a HR org that is damaging to the company, they always side with the company; What is unique to HR, is that can often turn them AGAINST an individual worker.

owl57 5y ago

I could see the difference with "commodity" employees, and that sucks, but what's the big difference if we are talking about programmers? The company is obviously very interested to make us not want to leave, and also probably interested that we feel like caring about the product.

brassattax 5y ago
Possibly true when the programmers are building the company's product. I happen to work for a company where all of IT is a cost center.
wonderwonder 5y ago
I think if that was true then large raises would be the norm as they know programmers often leave every couple years for a 20+ % raise.

misslibby 5y ago

Taking good care of employees and contractors can be in the company's interest, though. It's costly to lose them and having to hire new ones, and ex employees talking badly about a company also is not good. (I'd think, I don't work in HR, so no idea what actual directives they have).

Beldin 5y ago

You'd be amazed at how often those coincide if there's not a culture of omerta. It's almost as if happy employees are in a company's interest. Not paramount, but not neglected either.

alexashka 5y ago
Culture of omerta - I had to look it up. There'll always be culture of omerta when you don't give someone a piece of the company. If I'm an hourly employee, our interests are not aligned. You don't value me enough to share the wins but I know I'll be sharing in the losses by getting fired. To everyone pretending otherwise - wake the fuck up.