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I’ll wait to see the details but modern messaging apps are super complex and have tons of features. The odds of a third party implementing them all (and correct

by kogir 5y ago

I’ll wait to see the details but modern messaging apps are super complex and have tons of features. The odds of a third party implementing them all (and correctly) is low. Instead it’ll be like how iMessage “interoperates” with SMS, where non-native users are shunned for breaking everything for the group.

endisneigh 5y ago
I’d be surprised if this isn’t what happens
simulate-me 5y ago
I don’t think apps will need to implement each others’ features. Rather, apps will need to expose external APIs so that others could implement their functionality if desired.
rektide 5y ago
Microsoft having to document SMB protocol & to an extend Active Directory protocols after losing the legal fight with Samba project[1] set forth a fairly hopeful future to me, a what might be. SMB is basically a worst case of difficult to tame protocols. A sea of ancient crufty bizarre interlocking protocols, which Samba had already done good work reversing. But after enormous enormous bad blood, bad press, and a nearly billion dollar EU antitrust fine looming, Microsft went & did the not-immoral(court mandated thing & documented the protocol & stopped anti-competitive cutting out others. Now hypothetically others could come and participate too. The idea that every app does messaging perfectly is indeed dubious. But the iMessage reducing outsiders to bit players, shunned, with shit experiences & not allowed to improve, is exactly the sort of monopolization anti-trust hellscape that seems like is getting turned back here. Fear over imperfection to me is way way way way down the chain of concerns to the blatantly anti-competitive, ever-isolating, closed off intranets of proprietary, big player apps engaged in high stakes vicious anti-competitive practices, like Apple is so notoriously & vicuously known for. It might not got smooth at first but progress will be possible & things will improve quickly from there. Market forces can reassert themselves, once interioeration begins. It's gonna be great. Dont let a fear of openness & love of the giant obstruct us for yet more decades, please. The future & possibility is too valuable to squander, too valuable to let us be divided & sundered like we have been by these vast duopolies & isolated fragmented partial un-inter-networks. [1] https://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20110525-01.en.html https://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20110525-01.en.html

by kogir 5y ago

endisneigh 5y ago

I’d be surprised if this isn’t what happens

simulate-me 5y ago

I don’t think apps will need to implement each others’ features. Rather, apps will need to expose external APIs so that others could implement their functionality if desired.

rektide 5y ago

Microsoft having to document SMB protocol & to an extend Active Directory protocols after losing the legal fight with Samba project[1] set forth a fairly hopeful future to me, a what might be. SMB is basically a worst case of difficult to tame protocols. A sea of ancient crufty bizarre interlocking protocols, which Samba had already done good work reversing. But after enormous enormous bad blood, bad press, and a nearly billion dollar EU antitrust fine looming, Microsft went & did the not-immoral(court mandated thing & documented the protocol & stopped anti-competitive cutting out others. Now hypothetically others could come and participate too. The idea that every app does messaging perfectly is indeed dubious. But the iMessage reducing outsiders to bit players, shunned, with shit experiences & not allowed to improve, is exactly the sort of monopolization anti-trust hellscape that seems like is getting turned back here. Fear over imperfection to me is way way way way down the chain of concerns to the blatantly anti-competitive, ever-isolating, closed off intranets of proprietary, big player apps engaged in high stakes vicious anti-competitive practices, like Apple is so notoriously & vicuously known for. It might not got smooth at first but progress will be possible & things will improve quickly from there. Market forces can reassert themselves, once interioeration begins. It's gonna be great. Dont let a fear of openness & love of the giant obstruct us for yet more decades, please. The future & possibility is too valuable to squander, too valuable to let us be divided & sundered like we have been by these vast duopolies & isolated fragmented partial un-inter-networks. [1] https://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20110525-01.en.html https://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20110525-01.en.html