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> There’s nothing wrong with Electron as a concept. I'm mainly avoiding it because I want to make an app I can use (after all, I'm primarily making this for my

> There’s nothing wrong with Electron as a concept. I'm mainly avoiding it because I want to make an app I can use (after all, I'm primarily making this for myself), and not just have a desktop app for... someone. My laptop only has 4GB of RAM, so Electron is off the cards for what I need.

dkersten 5y ago
This always frustrated me with Slack. It has often been the thing running on my computer using the most RAM, yet Slack is never the primary tool I'm using the computer for. That is, communication is always a secondary thing to support my work doing something else or to allow me to do that something else in a team. Its about that other work though, not the communication. Maybe some day soon I'll have a laptop with 32 GB of RAM and there will be more spare resources available for Slack to eat, but until then, I really dislike running Slack. So yeah, I still greatly prefer desktop applications to use native UI's and prefer to avoid browser applications where I can. But its becoming increasingly hard. Of course, I, too, am building browser things, since that's what the industry seems to demand, so I'm not really helping the situation. I do keep meaning to learn Flutter though.
- tentacleuno 5y ago
  > This always frustrated me with Slack. It has often been the thing running on my computer using the most RAM, yet Slack is never the primary tool I'm using the computer for. That is, communication is always a secondary thing to support my work doing something else or to allow me to do that something else in a team. Same with me, but s/Slack/Microsoft Teams. I personally find it absolutely horrendous to use and wouldn't recommend it. > Of course, I, too, am building browser things Same. That's what I'm primarily familiar with, especially React. I hope some day we have something like React Native for desktop, where it integrates with the native widgets of the platform (Qt, perhaps?) and you just integrate them with your app through components... like React Native on mobile. It's such a shame this space isn't being properly explored yet.
dbbk 5y ago
I'm not even sure that laptops are still sold with 4GB of RAM? You have a very niche usecase.
- Beltalowda 5y ago
  It lists 37 here [1]. Pretty sure people are still buying them. https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/category/_windows-laptops-641067.html?searchParams=%2FSearch.ff%3FfilterTabbedCategory%3Donlineshop%26filterCategoriesROOT%3DComputer%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482710%26filterCategoriesROOT%252FComputer%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482710%3DLaptops%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482723%26filterCategoriesROOT%252FComputer%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482710%252FLaptops%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482723%3DWindows-laptops%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc641067%26filteravailability%3D1%26filterWerkgeheugen%3D4%2BGB%26channel%3Dmmnlnl%26followSearch%3D9412%26disableTabbedCategory%3Dtrue%26navigation%3Dtrue&sort=&view=&page= https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/category/_windows-laptops-64106...
  - skydhash 5y ago
    I can say a lot of people only uses computer for typing papers or watching movies - bigger display and storage. My cousin does everything else on her phone.
- tentacleuno 5y ago
  I wish I wasn't poor. Hoping to get a laptop with a bit more later on.
- tored 5y ago
  How is 4GB RAM installed a niche use case? If this is the route software development is intended to take where every app is going to consume +4GB RAM good luck running multiple apps at the same time or running it on a smaller form factor. It is truly bizarre that we are moving away from the desktop PC to smaller form factor but at the same time pushing technology that requires a desktop PC.
bavell 5y ago
What range of memory usage are you going for? You could maybe look into using Electron solely for the GUI and using C/Rust/Go for the backend. Haven't done anything like that myself but from what I've read it's a decent compromise.
- tentacleuno 5y ago
  I'll take anything under 300/500MB as a win, though I admit under the circumstances that's going to be very tight.

dkersten 5y ago

This always frustrated me with Slack. It has often been the thing running on my computer using the most RAM, yet Slack is never the primary tool I'm using the computer for. That is, communication is always a secondary thing to support my work doing something else or to allow me to do that something else in a team. Its about that other work though, not the communication. Maybe some day soon I'll have a laptop with 32 GB of RAM and there will be more spare resources available for Slack to eat, but until then, I really dislike running Slack. So yeah, I still greatly prefer desktop applications to use native UI's and prefer to avoid browser applications where I can. But its becoming increasingly hard. Of course, I, too, am building browser things, since that's what the industry seems to demand, so I'm not really helping the situation. I do keep meaning to learn Flutter though.

tentacleuno 5y ago
> This always frustrated me with Slack. It has often been the thing running on my computer using the most RAM, yet Slack is never the primary tool I'm using the computer for. That is, communication is always a secondary thing to support my work doing something else or to allow me to do that something else in a team. Same with me, but s/Slack/Microsoft Teams. I personally find it absolutely horrendous to use and wouldn't recommend it. > Of course, I, too, am building browser things Same. That's what I'm primarily familiar with, especially React. I hope some day we have something like React Native for desktop, where it integrates with the native widgets of the platform (Qt, perhaps?) and you just integrate them with your app through components... like React Native on mobile. It's such a shame this space isn't being properly explored yet.

dbbk 5y ago

I'm not even sure that laptops are still sold with 4GB of RAM? You have a very niche usecase.

Beltalowda 5y ago
It lists 37 here [1]. Pretty sure people are still buying them. https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/category/_windows-laptops-641067.html?searchParams=%2FSearch.ff%3FfilterTabbedCategory%3Donlineshop%26filterCategoriesROOT%3DComputer%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482710%26filterCategoriesROOT%252FComputer%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482710%3DLaptops%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482723%26filterCategoriesROOT%252FComputer%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482710%252FLaptops%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc482723%3DWindows-laptops%25C2%25A7MediaNLnlc641067%26filteravailability%3D1%26filterWerkgeheugen%3D4%2BGB%26channel%3Dmmnlnl%26followSearch%3D9412%26disableTabbedCategory%3Dtrue%26navigation%3Dtrue&sort=&view=&page= https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/category/_windows-laptops-64106...
- skydhash 5y ago
  I can say a lot of people only uses computer for typing papers or watching movies - bigger display and storage. My cousin does everything else on her phone.
tentacleuno 5y ago
I wish I wasn't poor. Hoping to get a laptop with a bit more later on.
tored 5y ago
How is 4GB RAM installed a niche use case? If this is the route software development is intended to take where every app is going to consume +4GB RAM good luck running multiple apps at the same time or running it on a smaller form factor. It is truly bizarre that we are moving away from the desktop PC to smaller form factor but at the same time pushing technology that requires a desktop PC.

bavell 5y ago

What range of memory usage are you going for? You could maybe look into using Electron solely for the GUI and using C/Rust/Go for the backend. Haven't done anything like that myself but from what I've read it's a decent compromise.

tentacleuno 5y ago
I'll take anything under 300/500MB as a win, though I admit under the circumstances that's going to be very tight.