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I feel like there's a male birth control on the horizon every year for the last ten years. This one hasn't hit human trials yet so no point getting excited.

by rjh29 5y ago

metaph6 5y ago
I've got the same feelings but it seems a bit more promising than others, and least here is some poor mice the trials conducted on
- recuter 5y ago
  They tried monkeys already. Worked perfectly btw. You're welcome to volunteer for the human trials to spare the poor animals, I would except that I really really don't want to.
  - metaph6 5y ago
    Oh thanks, I value my life more than other creatures'. Survival instinct:p
slowmotiony 5y ago
There is Trestolone which is studied and shown to be very effective (patients had zero sperm in their ejaculate after several months of administering the compound), but there are hormonal side effects similar to testosterone, which kind of explains why it's pretty much only used in the bodybuilding community. The pill in the article is a non-hormonal one, which is interesting
- pcthrowaway 5y ago
  Vasalgel (a reversible injection that prevents your swimmers from making it into the sauce) is another interesting one that has never made it to release for perplexing reasons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_guidance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm...
  - recuter 5y ago
    This one requires two injections right into the most awkward bit of ye old twig and berries, the first to numb the pain from the second. Afterwards you walk around sore with a swollen scrotum for a week. Doesn't seem that perplexing. Unless you're into that sort of thing, not that there is anything wrong with that..
    - pygy_ 5y ago
      Vasalgel (a.k.a. RISUG) may not be for everyone, but even 1% of the male population would be a gigantic market, and yet RISUG never found corporate backing (it's been around for 40 years). I've been waiting for this for more than 10 years now, ever since I've learned about it.
    - burnoutgal 5y ago
      Have you ever read about what it's like to get an IUD inserted? I would recommend checking that out and then asking whether a small injection to the genitals is really the worst possibility.
      - recuter 5y ago
        I'm sure nothing could be worse. You're welcome to volunteer to get either procedure, both, or neither. I would recommend elective medical procedures stay optional.
        CodeShmode 5y ago
        I've heard someone say the pain from inserting an IUD was so great they backed out halfway through the procedure.
        recuter 5y ago
        An ex-gf of mine gently flicked my gonads once without warning, that was no picnic either. Luckily, just like an IUD, it isn't mandatory. Horses for courses.
- micromacrofoot 5y ago
  are the side effects really that much worse than what women have to deal with with their birth control? I’ve heard a lot of hormonal horror stories from women on the pill
  - recuter 5y ago
  - gidorah 5y ago
    - grapeskin 5y ago
      What? Any attempt to regulate or restrict birth control against women is consistently held up as the “patriarchy” because it restricts women’s autonomy. Now not restricting it is patriarchy? Seems like literally everything is. So far, men’s birth controls haven’t been legalized because the risks have been pretty massive. The last trial I heard of had a massive risk of suicide. “Patriarchy” has no part of it.
      - nicoburns 5y ago
        > The last trial I heard of had a massive risk of suicide. “Patriarchy” has no part of it. Existing birth control options for women also have high risk of mental health issues though. So people might reasonably question why were approved for women but not for men.
        slothtrop 5y ago
        A not-insignificant demographic that takes the pill do so in part to regulate hormones to the extent that it alleviates menstrual pain. It's not just to prevent pregnancy.
      - recuter 5y ago
        If you were a true ally you would be more like Alex Hesse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yabNRlqCCk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yabNRlqCCk
- collegeburner 5y ago
  Yeah most AAS or SARMs makes good birth control. Downside is it often needs to be run with a test base (depending on what stack) and it can be very hard to get natural test production and fertility back to what they were after going off. PCT is often not pleasant and still may not get it all the way back. I have a few buddies who ended up on lifetime TRT in early to mid 20s doing this. Stuff like HCG can help but is more $ and hassle. There was also some research that suggested it may itself be suppressive over a long enough term, though I think that's no longer current. Bottom line: playing with the endocrine system is risky and not always reversible. I will likely not be taking a hormonal birth control untill I see a lot more longitudinal data.

I feel like there's a male birth control on the horizon every year for the last ten years. This one hasn't hit human trials yet so no point getting excited.

by rjh29 5y ago

I feel like there's a male birth control on the horizon every year for the last ten years. This one hasn't hit human trials yet so no point getting excited.

metaph6 5y ago

I've got the same feelings but it seems a bit more promising than others, and least here is some poor mice the trials conducted on

recuter 5y ago
They tried monkeys already. Worked perfectly btw. You're welcome to volunteer for the human trials to spare the poor animals, I would except that I really really don't want to.
- metaph6 5y ago
  Oh thanks, I value my life more than other creatures'. Survival instinct:p

slowmotiony 5y ago

There is Trestolone which is studied and shown to be very effective (patients had zero sperm in their ejaculate after several months of administering the compound), but there are hormonal side effects similar to testosterone, which kind of explains why it's pretty much only used in the bodybuilding community. The pill in the article is a non-hormonal one, which is interesting

pcthrowaway 5y ago
Vasalgel (a reversible injection that prevents your swimmers from making it into the sauce) is another interesting one that has never made it to release for perplexing reasons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_guidance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm...
- recuter 5y ago
  This one requires two injections right into the most awkward bit of ye old twig and berries, the first to numb the pain from the second. Afterwards you walk around sore with a swollen scrotum for a week. Doesn't seem that perplexing. Unless you're into that sort of thing, not that there is anything wrong with that..
  - pygy_ 5y ago
    Vasalgel (a.k.a. RISUG) may not be for everyone, but even 1% of the male population would be a gigantic market, and yet RISUG never found corporate backing (it's been around for 40 years). I've been waiting for this for more than 10 years now, ever since I've learned about it.
  - burnoutgal 5y ago
    Have you ever read about what it's like to get an IUD inserted? I would recommend checking that out and then asking whether a small injection to the genitals is really the worst possibility.
    - recuter 5y ago
      I'm sure nothing could be worse. You're welcome to volunteer to get either procedure, both, or neither. I would recommend elective medical procedures stay optional.
      - CodeShmode 5y ago
        I've heard someone say the pain from inserting an IUD was so great they backed out halfway through the procedure.
        recuter 5y ago
        An ex-gf of mine gently flicked my gonads once without warning, that was no picnic either. Luckily, just like an IUD, it isn't mandatory. Horses for courses.
micromacrofoot 5y ago
are the side effects really that much worse than what women have to deal with with their birth control? I’ve heard a lot of hormonal horror stories from women on the pill
- recuter 5y ago
- gidorah 5y ago
  - grapeskin 5y ago
    What? Any attempt to regulate or restrict birth control against women is consistently held up as the “patriarchy” because it restricts women’s autonomy. Now not restricting it is patriarchy? Seems like literally everything is. So far, men’s birth controls haven’t been legalized because the risks have been pretty massive. The last trial I heard of had a massive risk of suicide. “Patriarchy” has no part of it.
    - nicoburns 5y ago
      > The last trial I heard of had a massive risk of suicide. “Patriarchy” has no part of it. Existing birth control options for women also have high risk of mental health issues though. So people might reasonably question why were approved for women but not for men.
      - slothtrop 5y ago
        A not-insignificant demographic that takes the pill do so in part to regulate hormones to the extent that it alleviates menstrual pain. It's not just to prevent pregnancy.
    - recuter 5y ago
      If you were a true ally you would be more like Alex Hesse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yabNRlqCCk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yabNRlqCCk
collegeburner 5y ago
Yeah most AAS or SARMs makes good birth control. Downside is it often needs to be run with a test base (depending on what stack) and it can be very hard to get natural test production and fertility back to what they were after going off. PCT is often not pleasant and still may not get it all the way back. I have a few buddies who ended up on lifetime TRT in early to mid 20s doing this. Stuff like HCG can help but is more $ and hassle. There was also some research that suggested it may itself be suppressive over a long enough term, though I think that's no longer current. Bottom line: playing with the endocrine system is risky and not always reversible. I will likely not be taking a hormonal birth control untill I see a lot more longitudinal data.