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I don't know. My moral intitutions and reasoning fall apart if you remove suffering from the equation. By that logic it would also be okay to farm and eat human

• genousti 5y ago
  • bigDinosaur 5y ago
    That'd be an okay but irrelevant to meat eating point if I was against supply chain transparency and stopping slavery. I am very much happy to see anyone who has enslaved anyone going to prison for the rest of their life though, and I'm very happy for companies to find alternative sources to warlords and corrupt banana republics.
  • ben_w 5y ago
    First, poor argument: https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/ https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/ Second, Apple is actually trying to make sure that doesn’t happen: https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Combat-Human-Trafficking-and-Slavery-in-Supply-Chain-2020.pdf https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Comb...
  • lopis 5y ago
    > Yet u write this probably on an iphone or whatever computer where rate minerals where harvested by slaves who died doing so. This is the lowest effort meme argument commonly found in any animal rights discussions. Yes there are problems in the world. My choice of phone makes barely any difference ethically; thus I must leave society behind, lest im banned from arguing about anything at all? No, you evaluate what you have power over and act accordingly. I have access to all my nutrition in plat based food, so that's what I eat. I can afford and am able to use a Fairphone, so I do that. Defeatist comments like yours don't drive discussion nor help anyone, but those too lazy or accommodated to re-evaluate their impact on the world.