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In Belgium we have cows specifically breaded for meat, which are called "dikbil" =(fatbutt). It's extremely unnatural, so I'm very afraid what kind of monstrosi

In Belgium we have cows specifically breaded for meat, which are called "dikbil" =(fatbutt). It's extremely unnatural, so I'm very afraid what kind of monstrosity the industry can come up with when using gene manipulation. https://www.google.com/search?q=dikbil https://www.google.com/search?q=dikbil

stefantalpalaru 5y ago
> In Belgium we have cows specifically breaded for meat, which are called "dikbil" =(fatbutt). It's extremely unnatural It's muscular hyperplasia obtained from inbreeding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Blue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Blue They did the same thing in Piedmont, Italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese_cattle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese_cattle
kawsper 5y ago
Denmark have been breeding pigs to have a higher amount of piglets, but it makes the death rate higher, about 25.000 piglets die a day, and the pre-wean mortality rate is ~21%. We're also exporting the technology and knowledge of breeding pigs. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/30/danish-bacon-what-happens-when-you-push-pigs-to-the-absolute-limit https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/30/danish-b...
sdflhasjd 5y ago
"Breaded" means coated in breadcrumbs. I assume they weren't bred like that.
- cik2e 5y ago
  I pictured a whole live cow covered in breadcrumbs instead of fur when I read that. The southern US would be a huge importer.
  - bombcar 5y ago
    If it was a chocolate cow you’d have chicken fried steak and a milkshake all in one. A marvel of engineering.
  - prepend 5y ago
    I pictured a cow bred for country fried steak or snitzel or something and was intrigued by the idea of animals bred for specific preparation methods. I only hope this crisper age will allow for amazing animals. I’m hoping they can breed cows with cheese inside their muscles.
- runeks 5y ago
  Sounds delicious
- koonsolo 5y ago
  Ha yeah, I was already questioning myself if it was the correct spelling :D.
xbmcuser 5y ago
Most livestock, fruits, grains and vegetable that exist today and we buy in our store shelves are all the result of selective breeding by humans over the last 100-200 years. More recently as the science and ability to do selective breeding has improved. Genetic manipulation is going to accelerate something that is already happening. For me genetic manipulation of livestock and grains is not as problematic as the western/richer countries patenting genes and making poor countries pay through the nose for it.
- nojito 5y ago
  If this didn’t happen in pharmaceuticals it wouldn’t happen in gene editing.
- runeks 5y ago
  > Most livestock, fruits, grains and vegetable that exist today and we buy in our store shelves are all the result of selective breeding by humans over the last 100-200 years. More like thousands of years. Also, before humans were selectively breeding, animals were “unconsciously breeding” e.g. fruits by eating the tastiest ones and thereby spreading their seeds.
- koonsolo 5y ago
  I don't fully agree with that timeline, at least not when you consider it more broadly. My granddad was a farmer (he was born around 1920). Back then, animals were still treated fairly well, and the animals themselves were also still natural. The real industrialization of livestock came after that, when he was already retired. Having raised and killed animals all of his life, he actually wasn't too fond of how animals were raised and treated after that. For sure he regarded all specifically bred animals as unnatural.
  - xbmcuser 5y ago
    What has how animals are treated got to do with selective breeding? Even your granddad probably used selective breeding.
    - 5y ago
mbg721 5y ago
The US has Dolly-Parton-esque chickens too, it's not a new phenomenon.
- koonsolo 5y ago
  Yes, those we have in Belgium too. My grandfather was a farmer, and at his old age he bought such a chicken. He was amazed and astounded that within a few weeks it became so big it couldn't stand on its feet anymore. He didn't buy such a chicken again.

stefantalpalaru 5y ago

> In Belgium we have cows specifically breaded for meat, which are called "dikbil" =(fatbutt). It's extremely unnatural It's muscular hyperplasia obtained from inbreeding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Blue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Blue They did the same thing in Piedmont, Italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese_cattle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese_cattle

kawsper 5y ago

Denmark have been breeding pigs to have a higher amount of piglets, but it makes the death rate higher, about 25.000 piglets die a day, and the pre-wean mortality rate is ~21%. We're also exporting the technology and knowledge of breeding pigs. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/30/danish-bacon-what-happens-when-you-push-pigs-to-the-absolute-limit https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/30/danish-b...

sdflhasjd 5y ago

"Breaded" means coated in breadcrumbs. I assume they weren't bred like that.

cik2e 5y ago
I pictured a whole live cow covered in breadcrumbs instead of fur when I read that. The southern US would be a huge importer.
- bombcar 5y ago
  If it was a chocolate cow you’d have chicken fried steak and a milkshake all in one. A marvel of engineering.
- prepend 5y ago
  I pictured a cow bred for country fried steak or snitzel or something and was intrigued by the idea of animals bred for specific preparation methods. I only hope this crisper age will allow for amazing animals. I’m hoping they can breed cows with cheese inside their muscles.
runeks 5y ago
Sounds delicious
koonsolo 5y ago
Ha yeah, I was already questioning myself if it was the correct spelling :D.

xbmcuser 5y ago

Most livestock, fruits, grains and vegetable that exist today and we buy in our store shelves are all the result of selective breeding by humans over the last 100-200 years. More recently as the science and ability to do selective breeding has improved. Genetic manipulation is going to accelerate something that is already happening. For me genetic manipulation of livestock and grains is not as problematic as the western/richer countries patenting genes and making poor countries pay through the nose for it.

nojito 5y ago
If this didn’t happen in pharmaceuticals it wouldn’t happen in gene editing.
runeks 5y ago
> Most livestock, fruits, grains and vegetable that exist today and we buy in our store shelves are all the result of selective breeding by humans over the last 100-200 years. More like thousands of years. Also, before humans were selectively breeding, animals were “unconsciously breeding” e.g. fruits by eating the tastiest ones and thereby spreading their seeds.
koonsolo 5y ago
I don't fully agree with that timeline, at least not when you consider it more broadly. My granddad was a farmer (he was born around 1920). Back then, animals were still treated fairly well, and the animals themselves were also still natural. The real industrialization of livestock came after that, when he was already retired. Having raised and killed animals all of his life, he actually wasn't too fond of how animals were raised and treated after that. For sure he regarded all specifically bred animals as unnatural.
- xbmcuser 5y ago
  What has how animals are treated got to do with selective breeding? Even your granddad probably used selective breeding.
  - 5y ago

mbg721 5y ago

The US has Dolly-Parton-esque chickens too, it's not a new phenomenon.

koonsolo 5y ago
Yes, those we have in Belgium too. My grandfather was a farmer, and at his old age he bought such a chicken. He was amazed and astounded that within a few weeks it became so big it couldn't stand on its feet anymore. He didn't buy such a chicken again.