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> You went to my concert, now you can get into a special channel on my discord/get early access to my album etc This is one of those use cases which sounds sup

> You went to my concert, now you can get into a special channel on my discord/get early access to my album etc This is one of those use cases which sounds super cool but when you think about it, doesn’t really make any sense. I mean, maybe I’m just an antisocial person, but why would I want to be put in essentially a group chat for every person attending the Screaming Monkeys Band Tampa 11/23 concert? Early access for an album? You mean, the album you already presumably just heard… at the concert?

seanhunter 5y ago
Lots of people really like this - you're in a fan community where it's ok to be a fan and people aren't going to criticise the fact you like this particular band. The artist can do AMAs direct with their fans without the trolling etc that infect a lot of social media because everyone in that channel is in the same community. As for buying an album you heard at the concert, yes. If you like what you heard at the concert, why wouldn't you want to hear it again? People listen to music more than once per tune. You may not see these things as a benefit but a lot of people do.
- uncomputation 5y ago
  You reduced my argument to stupidity by removing the early access part. You said early access to an album, meaning because you bought X token-ticket, you get access to an album which is not released yet, or else it wouldn’t be early access. Of course if the album is already out, then yeah most people at the concert are going to have had bought already. But then you don’t need early access via token-ticket. Unless you are meaning that the artist performed a new album at this concert, now I get to buy it ahead of its actual release because I attended a concert. This makes more sense logically and is probably what you meant, but it seems like a very specific and even one-off use case. Not to mention that, due to torrents, once this “early access” album is unlocked with a token, it’s practically going to be unlocked for everyone because other people aren’t going to wait and at least one of those token-ticket holders is going to seed it. > you're in a fan community where it's ok to be a fan and people aren't going to criticise the fact you like this particular band I suppose this is similar to a forum but membership is gated via purchase of a token-ticket. It’s an interesting use case for sure, but in my opinion is unnecessarily financialized because now I have to buy a ticket to the artist to join a forum/subreddit? This doesn’t even solve the fact that if the artist doesn’t offer concerts in your area or even country (eg South America), it doesn’t really matter that you have all of this decentralized and distributed technology gating things up because the actual point of centralization, the artist, isn’t touring where you live. “No not all forums, this would just be an extra VIP forum.” I guess, sure, this is a technology which enables a VIP forum. I am not sure how useful, popular, appreciated, etc. those are, not to mention the fact that you can already implement that without tokens by requiring unique ticket serial numbers and then you don’t have the problem of everyone’s membership to this VIP forum being public knowledge (as is the nature of the blockchain), but fair enough.

seanhunter 5y ago

Lots of people really like this - you're in a fan community where it's ok to be a fan and people aren't going to criticise the fact you like this particular band. The artist can do AMAs direct with their fans without the trolling etc that infect a lot of social media because everyone in that channel is in the same community. As for buying an album you heard at the concert, yes. If you like what you heard at the concert, why wouldn't you want to hear it again? People listen to music more than once per tune. You may not see these things as a benefit but a lot of people do.

uncomputation 5y ago
You reduced my argument to stupidity by removing the early access part. You said early access to an album, meaning because you bought X token-ticket, you get access to an album which is not released yet, or else it wouldn’t be early access. Of course if the album is already out, then yeah most people at the concert are going to have had bought already. But then you don’t need early access via token-ticket. Unless you are meaning that the artist performed a new album at this concert, now I get to buy it ahead of its actual release because I attended a concert. This makes more sense logically and is probably what you meant, but it seems like a very specific and even one-off use case. Not to mention that, due to torrents, once this “early access” album is unlocked with a token, it’s practically going to be unlocked for everyone because other people aren’t going to wait and at least one of those token-ticket holders is going to seed it. > you're in a fan community where it's ok to be a fan and people aren't going to criticise the fact you like this particular band I suppose this is similar to a forum but membership is gated via purchase of a token-ticket. It’s an interesting use case for sure, but in my opinion is unnecessarily financialized because now I have to buy a ticket to the artist to join a forum/subreddit? This doesn’t even solve the fact that if the artist doesn’t offer concerts in your area or even country (eg South America), it doesn’t really matter that you have all of this decentralized and distributed technology gating things up because the actual point of centralization, the artist, isn’t touring where you live. “No not all forums, this would just be an extra VIP forum.” I guess, sure, this is a technology which enables a VIP forum. I am not sure how useful, popular, appreciated, etc. those are, not to mention the fact that you can already implement that without tokens by requiring unique ticket serial numbers and then you don’t have the problem of everyone’s membership to this VIP forum being public knowledge (as is the nature of the blockchain), but fair enough.