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> far superior to pasteurized milk both in taste and purity. How does pasteurisation make the milk less pure? > Sure, the heat kills them, but it does not re

by unmole 5y ago

> far superior to pasteurized milk both in taste and purity. How does pasteurisation make the milk less pure? > Sure, the heat kills them, but it does not remove them from the milk. All of their proteins are still there and will be consumed. So? > I used to get sick from drinking store bought milk, and I believe it was due to the literal shit that they allow to enter into the process. Loads of people also believe that MSG gives them headaches. I find your theory equally implausible. This sort of perception of superiority is very common among people who make a fuss about natural, organic or raw foods. Considering that rest of population does just fine, maybe adjust your priors a bit.

manquer 5y ago
pasteurisation and heating in general breaks down some molecules in the milk that makes it less "pure" and alters the taste you can feel.
dcx 5y ago
I feel that this use of the imperative mood and the brusque, flippant dismissal of OP’s rare and interesting experiences are not just unjustified but do HN a disservice. If you have enough encounters with the medical system, you quickly learn that human bodies are actually insanely high variance and ridiculously poorly understood. The knowledge frontier is wide but super shallow. Gut bacteria. Epigenetics. Rare mutations. Differences in tolerances and sensitivities. WEIRD. Interactions of multiple conditions. OP is sharing work that obviously requires a baseline of high intelligence, plus his empirical observations. Writing this off as all just being in his head seems insulting in context. I also want to point out that of course dead bacteria can harm you! Would you eat pasteurized feces, or month old raw meat? Bacteria excrete waste products which are known to be toxic to humans, e.g. cereulide. Plus heat resistant endospores, e.g. botulism. And FYI there are a ton of known bioactive plus heat sensitive organic compounds in food. Please adjust your own priors a bit towards open-mindedness and intellectual humility - people here are as smart as you are. Shutting others down like this discourages them from sharing frontier knowledge with us.
- Handytinge 5y ago
  Thank you for writing this. I also found some of the OPs claims dubious, but something about the commenters wording really put me off. This is a community that benefits from the discussion of unique experiences, rather than dismisal of them.

by unmole 5y ago

manquer 5y ago

pasteurisation and heating in general breaks down some molecules in the milk that makes it less "pure" and alters the taste you can feel.

dcx 5y ago

I feel that this use of the imperative mood and the brusque, flippant dismissal of OP’s rare and interesting experiences are not just unjustified but do HN a disservice. If you have enough encounters with the medical system, you quickly learn that human bodies are actually insanely high variance and ridiculously poorly understood. The knowledge frontier is wide but super shallow. Gut bacteria. Epigenetics. Rare mutations. Differences in tolerances and sensitivities. WEIRD. Interactions of multiple conditions. OP is sharing work that obviously requires a baseline of high intelligence, plus his empirical observations. Writing this off as all just being in his head seems insulting in context. I also want to point out that of course dead bacteria can harm you! Would you eat pasteurized feces, or month old raw meat? Bacteria excrete waste products which are known to be toxic to humans, e.g. cereulide. Plus heat resistant endospores, e.g. botulism. And FYI there are a ton of known bioactive plus heat sensitive organic compounds in food. Please adjust your own priors a bit towards open-mindedness and intellectual humility - people here are as smart as you are. Shutting others down like this discourages them from sharing frontier knowledge with us.

Handytinge 5y ago
Thank you for writing this. I also found some of the OPs claims dubious, but something about the commenters wording really put me off. This is a community that benefits from the discussion of unique experiences, rather than dismisal of them.