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I kept under-cooking burger patties to the point where they were still raw in the middle and thought "f** it" and ate them anyway. Then I moved on to eating st

I kept under-cooking burger patties to the point where they were still raw in the middle and thought "f** it" and ate them anyway. Then I moved on to eating straight raw meat for the novelty of it. I'm not sure that I'd eat raw pork, but supposedly today's regulations have mostly eliminated the possibility of trichinosis. Otherwise, I've found raw meat to be way less hazardous than I was lead to believe. I don't advocate for it, and I at least like a good sear on my steak. My risk tolerance is much less than that of many people, for better or for worse.

thehappypm 5y ago
Rare burgers are really risky. Steaks are OK because there’s not usually bacteria within a cut of meat (at least not a rotten one). Ground beef is all surface area.
- stickfigure 5y ago
  > Rare burgers are really risky. How risky? Compare it to other risks we are commonly undertake, like driving. If you can't quantify risk, you're not providing a useful comment.
  - thehappypm 5y ago
    The CDC recommends ground beef cooked to 160F, which is well above “rare” temperature (around 130F). So, you’re going against the food safety guidelines. I’d say that introduces risk (though hard to quantify exactly). https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/bbq-iq.html https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/bbq-iq.html
    - stickfigure 5y ago
      That same page says steaks should go to 145F which is pretty far into medium and will get you looked at funny in most reputable steakhouses. So let's go back to: If you don't quantify risk, you're not providing a useful comment. That applies to the CDC too.
      - thehappypm 5y ago
        Good luck quantifying real world risks. What’s the risk of getting sick from a rare burger? Well, it’s the probability of a bad bacteria being present, then it not being killed by the cooking, and then actually taking root in your body.. good luck getting a number
- jazzyjackson 5y ago
  Depends on how long the ground beef is left out. If you grind the steak right before you eat it there's not much time for bacteria to multiply.
  - thehappypm 5y ago
    That’s correct! Most of us don’t do that, but for those who do it’s a much safer option.
jazzyjackson 5y ago
> My risk tolerance is much less than that of many people If you mean you can tolerate more risk than others, that would be a higher risk tolerance.

thehappypm 5y ago

Rare burgers are really risky. Steaks are OK because there’s not usually bacteria within a cut of meat (at least not a rotten one). Ground beef is all surface area.

stickfigure 5y ago
> Rare burgers are really risky. How risky? Compare it to other risks we are commonly undertake, like driving. If you can't quantify risk, you're not providing a useful comment.
- thehappypm 5y ago
  The CDC recommends ground beef cooked to 160F, which is well above “rare” temperature (around 130F). So, you’re going against the food safety guidelines. I’d say that introduces risk (though hard to quantify exactly). https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/bbq-iq.html https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/bbq-iq.html
  - stickfigure 5y ago
    That same page says steaks should go to 145F which is pretty far into medium and will get you looked at funny in most reputable steakhouses. So let's go back to: If you don't quantify risk, you're not providing a useful comment. That applies to the CDC too.
    - thehappypm 5y ago
      Good luck quantifying real world risks. What’s the risk of getting sick from a rare burger? Well, it’s the probability of a bad bacteria being present, then it not being killed by the cooking, and then actually taking root in your body.. good luck getting a number
jazzyjackson 5y ago
Depends on how long the ground beef is left out. If you grind the steak right before you eat it there's not much time for bacteria to multiply.
- thehappypm 5y ago
  That’s correct! Most of us don’t do that, but for those who do it’s a much safer option.

jazzyjackson 5y ago

> My risk tolerance is much less than that of many people If you mean you can tolerate more risk than others, that would be a higher risk tolerance.