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Agreed it's subjective. That said, what would you do with your quadrillion year long lifespan, assuming you're healthy during it? It's way past everything you

by the_af 5y ago

Agreed it's subjective. That said, what would you do with your quadrillion year long lifespan, assuming you're healthy during it? It's way past everything you can do and learn, and cosmic level events are not what the human mind can perceive as they slowly unfold... I would like to live a couple thousand years though, as long as my loved ones get to be along for the ride. Though I wonder if my loved ones would eventually become my hated ones...

p1esk 5y ago
It seems like you assume you would remain human for a quadrillion years. Why? I'd assume a technology to upload yourself into a better substrate (one you have full control over) will appear within next few hundred years. From that point there are no limits on what you can do or become.
- the_af 5y ago
  Your answer is the only valid counterpoint, in my opinion. Since the human mind cannot perceive the passage of quadrillion years, we would have to become something else, something inhuman. I don't know whether this is something I would wish for myself. Maybe. I like being human. But maybe, who knows?
  - p1esk 5y ago
    What do you like about being human?
lowdest 5y ago
I'm fond of my loved ones, but I also like creating new ones. I also would like to see very long term plans come to fruition. It seems very much like a "640K ought to be enough for anybody" problem. Works of art that require thousands of lifetimes to complete. Deep understanding of the physical world. Exploring the universe. Much more.
- the_af 5y ago
  I get what you mean, but I don't think the human mind can contemplate things that take thousands of years to unfold; it's just not wired for that. Even things that take years are difficult for us to comprehend. Re: creating new beings. How long till you also get bored of that? Remember we're talking about quadrillions of years. An additional thing to consider: if you could live quadrillions of years and still be able to perceive things that take thousands or millions of years to unfold, wouldn't you subjectively be living the lifespan of a normal human being? That is, your life wouldn't feel long to your mind, but normal (your mind would have to adjust to run more slowly). Wouldn't then regret your "short" lifespan and wish you could live longer?
cardiffspaceman 5y ago
This extends to a cohort of people living thousands of years, having memories of each other to thousands of years in the past. Plus they all need beds.
willcipriano 5y ago
> It's way past everything you can do and learn Such arrogance, humanity isn't all that far beyond it's banging rocks together phase. We haven't even scratched the surface. There is so much more to learn.
- the_af 5y ago
  It's not arrogance. There aren't an infinite number of things to do and learn. It may seem so when your lifespan is less than a century, but quadrillion years? You'd run out of things that make sense for a human being.
istorical 5y ago
How do you know it's way past everything you can do and learn? No one has ever had the experience to be able to say.

by the_af 5y ago

p1esk 5y ago

It seems like you assume you would remain human for a quadrillion years. Why? I'd assume a technology to upload yourself into a better substrate (one you have full control over) will appear within next few hundred years. From that point there are no limits on what you can do or become.

the_af 5y ago
Your answer is the only valid counterpoint, in my opinion. Since the human mind cannot perceive the passage of quadrillion years, we would have to become something else, something inhuman. I don't know whether this is something I would wish for myself. Maybe. I like being human. But maybe, who knows?
- p1esk 5y ago
  What do you like about being human?

lowdest 5y ago

I'm fond of my loved ones, but I also like creating new ones. I also would like to see very long term plans come to fruition. It seems very much like a "640K ought to be enough for anybody" problem. Works of art that require thousands of lifetimes to complete. Deep understanding of the physical world. Exploring the universe. Much more.

the_af 5y ago
I get what you mean, but I don't think the human mind can contemplate things that take thousands of years to unfold; it's just not wired for that. Even things that take years are difficult for us to comprehend. Re: creating new beings. How long till you also get bored of that? Remember we're talking about quadrillions of years. An additional thing to consider: if you could live quadrillions of years and still be able to perceive things that take thousands or millions of years to unfold, wouldn't you subjectively be living the lifespan of a normal human being? That is, your life wouldn't feel long to your mind, but normal (your mind would have to adjust to run more slowly). Wouldn't then regret your "short" lifespan and wish you could live longer?

cardiffspaceman 5y ago

This extends to a cohort of people living thousands of years, having memories of each other to thousands of years in the past. Plus they all need beds.

willcipriano 5y ago

> It's way past everything you can do and learn Such arrogance, humanity isn't all that far beyond it's banging rocks together phase. We haven't even scratched the surface. There is so much more to learn.

the_af 5y ago
It's not arrogance. There aren't an infinite number of things to do and learn. It may seem so when your lifespan is less than a century, but quadrillion years? You'd run out of things that make sense for a human being.

istorical 5y ago

How do you know it's way past everything you can do and learn? No one has ever had the experience to be able to say.