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The best bit is that the proposal requires devices to support the original app store AND side-loading. Which is exactly what Apple doesn't want, because of (a)

by eps 5y ago

The best bit is that the proposal requires devices to support the original app store AND side-loading. Which is exactly what Apple doesn't want, because of (a) Fortnite / alt payment options (b) Facebook / privacy restrictions bypass, i.e. the loss of revenue and the loss of credibility as a (sort of) privacy-oriented platform. So I am sure they will fight to at least make it an OR.

_abox 5y ago
They still control the OS so they can probably still do a lot to avoid privacy issues. Just by locking down their APIs and sandboxing properly. The EU is not asking for a jailbreak/root. Just side loading. Also it could lead to a much better ecosystem of open-source apps like there is with F-Droid on Android. It'll take some time to develop but I really love many F-Droid apps over their commercial alternatives. Apps are so much more efficient if they just do what they need to do and don't bother with all the spying and ads. It could also finally enable other browsers on iOS for real!
ls15 5y ago
> So I am sure they will fight to at least make it an OR. I am not sure about this. Who would buy an iphone with the intention to sideload apps if it does not let them install all the apps that the iphone is famous for at the same time? Microsoft allowed users to still use IE (and Office and everything else) after they have been forced to offer other browsers. I envision a scenario, where you buy a new iphone and selecting/configuring appstores is part of the setup process and can be changed later. As many as you want, just like you would add repos in a package manager. We would not allow our shopping bags to limit our possible sources of groceries to one specific supermarket chain.
- yywwbbn 5y ago
  Considering that never happened on Android I think it’s even less likely in Apple’s case. Unless the EU explicitly requires Apple to show window allowing the user to pick the app stores he wants to use like they sid with web browsers

by eps 5y ago

_abox 5y ago

They still control the OS so they can probably still do a lot to avoid privacy issues. Just by locking down their APIs and sandboxing properly. The EU is not asking for a jailbreak/root. Just side loading. Also it could lead to a much better ecosystem of open-source apps like there is with F-Droid on Android. It'll take some time to develop but I really love many F-Droid apps over their commercial alternatives. Apps are so much more efficient if they just do what they need to do and don't bother with all the spying and ads. It could also finally enable other browsers on iOS for real!

ls15 5y ago

> So I am sure they will fight to at least make it an OR. I am not sure about this. Who would buy an iphone with the intention to sideload apps if it does not let them install all the apps that the iphone is famous for at the same time? Microsoft allowed users to still use IE (and Office and everything else) after they have been forced to offer other browsers. I envision a scenario, where you buy a new iphone and selecting/configuring appstores is part of the setup process and can be changed later. As many as you want, just like you would add repos in a package manager. We would not allow our shopping bags to limit our possible sources of groceries to one specific supermarket chain.

yywwbbn 5y ago
Considering that never happened on Android I think it’s even less likely in Apple’s case. Unless the EU explicitly requires Apple to show window allowing the user to pick the app stores he wants to use like they sid with web browsers