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Apple will soon require 3rd party app stores to remit 27% of all revenue.

olliej 5y ago
If not the stores themselves, then presumably the apps will have to pay. I’d also hope that the store are required to enforce the same security protections as the main App Store. I don’t want buying an app to now come with the risk of uncancellable subscriptions, gross invasion of privacy, malware, etc
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Presumably, they could just treat iOS like macOS, where there already is a notarization system that covers apps distributed outside of the Mac App store. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizing_macos_software_before_distribution https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizin... Also, people forget that iOS itself has many security protections built into the platform itself that go beyond App Store review. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30199125 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30199125
  - metadat 5y ago
    Fascinating read, especially https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/for-the-first-time-ever-android-0days-cost-more-than-ios-exploits/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/for-t...
_abox 5y ago
How can they? If you can sideload they have no way to enforce this.
- Spivak 5y ago
  “Not via the App Store” != “Without Apple Approval” Side loading will likely still require a business agreement with Apple and “App Review” to get a cert that allows your app to run.
  - _abox 5y ago
    That would really defeat the whole purpose... I'm sure this is not the intention of this law. However it is indeed possible that Apple would weasel such a requirement through the loopholes, yes.
    - aaomidi 5y ago
      The more they try to block this, the heavier the regulations are going to be on them. At some point Apple might see itself being split apart because of its constant and well documented abuse of it's status in the market.
      - dmitrygr 5y ago
        Into what and what, exactly?
        aaomidi 5y ago
        You could imagine the hardware manufacturing/os component of apple being split from the services part of apple.
      - olliej 5y ago
        What market abuse? And what do you split up? Apple is a hardware company, all the software they write is purely to make the hardware they sell attractive to consumers.
        spacemanmatt 5y ago
        > all the software they write is purely to make the hardware they sell attractive to consumers. This view of Apple as a pure-platform company does not comport with reality
        emptysongglass 5y ago
        Apple is now a services company: https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/20/18273179/apple-icloud-itunes-app-store-music-services-businesses https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/20/18273179/apple-icloud-itu...

If not the stores themselves, then presumably the apps will have to pay. I’d also hope that the store are required to enforce the same security protections as the main App Store. I don’t want buying an app to now come with the risk of uncancellable subscriptions, gross invasion of privacy, malware, etc

Apocryphon 5y ago
Presumably, they could just treat iOS like macOS, where there already is a notarization system that covers apps distributed outside of the Mac App store. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizing_macos_software_before_distribution https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizin... Also, people forget that iOS itself has many security protections built into the platform itself that go beyond App Store review. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30199125 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30199125
- metadat 5y ago
  Fascinating read, especially https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/for-the-first-time-ever-android-0days-cost-more-than-ios-exploits/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/for-t...

_abox 5y ago

How can they? If you can sideload they have no way to enforce this.

Spivak 5y ago
“Not via the App Store” != “Without Apple Approval” Side loading will likely still require a business agreement with Apple and “App Review” to get a cert that allows your app to run.
- _abox 5y ago
  That would really defeat the whole purpose... I'm sure this is not the intention of this law. However it is indeed possible that Apple would weasel such a requirement through the loopholes, yes.
  - aaomidi 5y ago
    The more they try to block this, the heavier the regulations are going to be on them. At some point Apple might see itself being split apart because of its constant and well documented abuse of it's status in the market.
    - dmitrygr 5y ago
      Into what and what, exactly?
      - aaomidi 5y ago
        You could imagine the hardware manufacturing/os component of apple being split from the services part of apple.
    - olliej 5y ago
      What market abuse? And what do you split up? Apple is a hardware company, all the software they write is purely to make the hardware they sell attractive to consumers.
      - spacemanmatt 5y ago
        > all the software they write is purely to make the hardware they sell attractive to consumers. This view of Apple as a pure-platform company does not comport with reality
      - emptysongglass 5y ago
        Apple is now a services company: https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/20/18273179/apple-icloud-itunes-app-store-music-services-businesses https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/20/18273179/apple-icloud-itu...