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You could have also looked up all the available male birth control options that have been successfully developed and never sold within the last 5-10 years. htt

by 4oo4 5y ago

You could have also looked up all the available male birth control options that have been successfully developed and never sold within the last 5-10 years. https://googlethatforyou.com?q=male%20birth%20control https://googlethatforyou.com?q=male%20birth%20control Wikipedia is not the sole source of truth. You are misidentifying me as either a misogynist and/or man-hater, please see my clarification.

Femtio 5y ago
I have not found anything with your link which disproof my statement.
- 4oo4 5y ago
  I don't think you really read any of those articles or did any deep research to learn the history of male birth control development, but the information is out there if you look harder than Wikipedia. If you want to mischaracterize me you're free to do so, even though I think we're more in agreement than it appears. My point still stands that it's not the science holding us back as much as social attitudes and pharmaceutical company decision making. Pharmaceutical companies do not see this as very profitable, so it's likely they are making false assumptions about male family planning and gender norms. Even beyond that if you take out any assumptions about male attitudes, society has taught women that they need to accept more invasive measures for family planning, and it just takes time for men to get used to that too. However, as much as attitudes are changing there are some men that will not take up this responsibility, and I say this as a progressive person that has to work with many conservative people that have extremely regressive views about gender norms that are too stubborn and willfully ignorant to be educated otherwise. I'll just leave these here for those who are actually interested in making this a reality and learning the science and history of where we're at: - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6419257/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6419257/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4762912/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4762912/ - https://www.healthline.com/health-news/male-birth-control https://www.healthline.com/health-news/male-birth-control - https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/male-birth-control-vasectomies-hormone-pill/ https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/male-birth-control-v...
  - Femtio 5y ago
    You are still only posting studies etc. How they could work but not a single available save product. I'm totally lost on what your stance is. You can't push against men if there is not a single product out there. ...

by 4oo4 5y ago

Femtio 5y ago

I have not found anything with your link which disproof my statement.

4oo4 5y ago
I don't think you really read any of those articles or did any deep research to learn the history of male birth control development, but the information is out there if you look harder than Wikipedia. If you want to mischaracterize me you're free to do so, even though I think we're more in agreement than it appears. My point still stands that it's not the science holding us back as much as social attitudes and pharmaceutical company decision making. Pharmaceutical companies do not see this as very profitable, so it's likely they are making false assumptions about male family planning and gender norms. Even beyond that if you take out any assumptions about male attitudes, society has taught women that they need to accept more invasive measures for family planning, and it just takes time for men to get used to that too. However, as much as attitudes are changing there are some men that will not take up this responsibility, and I say this as a progressive person that has to work with many conservative people that have extremely regressive views about gender norms that are too stubborn and willfully ignorant to be educated otherwise. I'll just leave these here for those who are actually interested in making this a reality and learning the science and history of where we're at: - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6419257/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6419257/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4762912/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4762912/ - https://www.healthline.com/health-news/male-birth-control https://www.healthline.com/health-news/male-birth-control - https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/male-birth-control-vasectomies-hormone-pill/ https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/male-birth-control-v...
- Femtio 5y ago
  You are still only posting studies etc. How they could work but not a single available save product. I'm totally lost on what your stance is. You can't push against men if there is not a single product out there. ...