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Its a shame since I genuinely loved Keybase. I've just not felt the same way about another messaging app. Signal appears to be the safest but since WhatsApp is

by pm90 5y ago

Its a shame since I genuinely loved Keybase. I've just not felt the same way about another messaging app. Signal appears to be the safest but since WhatsApp is e2e encrypted and most of my social network is there already I'm stuck with it.

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molszanski 5y ago
Check out telegram. It surprisingly awesome in so many ways. Ultrafast native client on all platforms, very user friendly, time tested, stable, fully packed with features etc.
- Shank 5y ago
  I love Telegram, but I want to state it clearly: the default chat scheme isn't end-to-end encrypted, which Keybase is. Therefore, it's not a drop-in replacement.
  - chockchocschoir 5y ago
    And also the more obvious difference: Telegram requires a telephone number, Keybase did not.
  - molszanski 5y ago
    I don’t compare it to keybase. I compare it to WhatsApp and signal
    - robjan 5y ago
      The UX is better than WhatsApp and Signal but the security is worse. Facebook has your metadata but Telegram has everything
    - mritzmann 5y ago
      Same. Whatsapp and Signal chats are both E2E encrypted, Telegram is not.
sirmike_ 5y ago
https://wire.com/en/ https://wire.com/en/ is what i have used for years. YMMV.
- RL_Quine 5y ago
  I can't get these annoying people to stop sending me spam email, despite having unsubscribed probably 20 times at least. If they can't be trusted to not flood out email inboxes, they can't be trusted with anything else.
- GeckoEidechse 5y ago
  Yeah I switched away from Wire again due to constant notification issues (yes battery saving options are disabled on Android). My session has since timed out and trying to log back in on either mobile or desktop just causes the app to crash. Also there's no Matrix bridge for Wire compared to Signal. The multi-account support was nice and is something I'd really love to see in Matrix.
panick21_ 5y ago
I love the encrypted git and the file system.
ognarb 5y ago
Matrix is also a nice choice. E2ee and decentralized.
- xvector 5y ago
  But with poorly audited clients and metadata retention issues compared to Signal
  - tentacleuno 5y ago
    The overall Element UX is pretty appalling too. It's a good idea in practice, though.
    - Avamander 5y ago
      Replies being colored red for years, for no good reason... It really needs more UX/UI research and polish.
      - tentacleuno 5y ago
        The red replies is so weird, agreed. Add not being able to change the notification sound to the list. You can change the sound per-room, but not globally... someone reported this back in 2017 but it's never been fixed. The notification sound gives me a bit of anxiety every time I hear it.

by pm90 5y ago

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molszanski 5y ago

Check out telegram. It surprisingly awesome in so many ways. Ultrafast native client on all platforms, very user friendly, time tested, stable, fully packed with features etc.

Shank 5y ago
I love Telegram, but I want to state it clearly: the default chat scheme isn't end-to-end encrypted, which Keybase is. Therefore, it's not a drop-in replacement.
- chockchocschoir 5y ago
  And also the more obvious difference: Telegram requires a telephone number, Keybase did not.
- molszanski 5y ago
  I don’t compare it to keybase. I compare it to WhatsApp and signal
  - robjan 5y ago
    The UX is better than WhatsApp and Signal but the security is worse. Facebook has your metadata but Telegram has everything
  - mritzmann 5y ago
    Same. Whatsapp and Signal chats are both E2E encrypted, Telegram is not.

sirmike_ 5y ago

https://wire.com/en/ https://wire.com/en/ is what i have used for years. YMMV.

RL_Quine 5y ago
I can't get these annoying people to stop sending me spam email, despite having unsubscribed probably 20 times at least. If they can't be trusted to not flood out email inboxes, they can't be trusted with anything else.
GeckoEidechse 5y ago
Yeah I switched away from Wire again due to constant notification issues (yes battery saving options are disabled on Android). My session has since timed out and trying to log back in on either mobile or desktop just causes the app to crash. Also there's no Matrix bridge for Wire compared to Signal. The multi-account support was nice and is something I'd really love to see in Matrix.

panick21_ 5y ago

I love the encrypted git and the file system.

ognarb 5y ago

Matrix is also a nice choice. E2ee and decentralized.

xvector 5y ago
But with poorly audited clients and metadata retention issues compared to Signal
- tentacleuno 5y ago
  The overall Element UX is pretty appalling too. It's a good idea in practice, though.
  - Avamander 5y ago
    Replies being colored red for years, for no good reason... It really needs more UX/UI research and polish.
    - tentacleuno 5y ago
      The red replies is so weird, agreed. Add not being able to change the notification sound to the list. You can change the sound per-room, but not globally... someone reported this back in 2017 but it's never been fixed. The notification sound gives me a bit of anxiety every time I hear it.