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There I think are a number of viable male birth control options already, but most of them never come to market. This is because it's nearly impossible to get me
by 4oo4 5y ago
There I think are a number of viable male birth control options already, but most of them never come to market. This is because it's nearly impossible to get men to invest in preventing the risk of pregnancy. Aside from condoms, unfortunately the vast majority of heterosexual men are programmed to offload that risk mitigation onto women.
- insickness 5y agoYou underestimate most mens' willingness to avoid pregnancy. To a lot of men, there are few things more horrific than getting the wrong woman pregnant and being saddled with 18 years of child support payments and the ethical burden of 18 years of child-rearing.
- 4oo4 5y agoPersonally, I am a heterosexual male that would 100% take this if it's available, not sure why I was downvoted. This isn't my personal opinion, I am actually just stating the opinion of pharmaceutical companies. If you search for male birth control, you'll see lots of stories like this over the past 5-10 years. So you need to ask yourself why there aren't any that we can currently go to our doctor for? The science is there but attitudes and market research are not. We are a conscientious bunch here and not representative of the general population, sadly. Or at least, that's how pharmaceutical companies perceive that, and until that is successfully challenged I don't think any of these will be viable in a commercial sense, even if they are in a scientific one. Early trials of male hormonal birth control, usually in the form of injections, have shown that drugs are effective in preventing pregnancy, but pharmaceutical companies show little interest in developing or marketing them. But another obstacle is the unwillingness of men to endure the drug’s side-effects, and of the medical establishment to permit a drug with side-effects similar to those of women’s birth control from being given to men. I would be really curious how the side-effects compare to female birth control, which are already pretty bad to begin with, and we just expect women to put up with. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/05/male-birth-control-step-up-responsibility https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/05/male-b...
- 4oo4 5y agoI totally agree that most men want to avoid pregnancy, even if for selfish reasons instead of caring about their partners. It's not a question of estimating willingness to prevent pregnancy which I don't underestimate at all, but rather estimating to what depths men are willing to go to prevent pregnancy, compared with what women are already expected to do, and this is a result of gender norms. As far I know, what we have to go on mainly consists of fuzzy signals sent by pharmaceutical company research preferences. If someone knows of some solid research on this topic I'd love to see it.
- Femtio 5y agoYou could have spend time in actually looking things up. Wikipedia does not have any approved and working method as easy as a pill on it. Also the pill is not that easy for woman either. Don't put us man all in a bucket. You are not helping mitigating stereotypes
- 4oo4 5y agoYou could have also looked up all the available male birth control options that have been successfully developed and never sold within the last 5-10 years. https://googlethatforyou.com?q=male%20birth%20control https://googlethatforyou.com?q=male%20birth%20control Wikipedia is not the sole source of truth. You are misidentifying me as either a misogynist and/or man-hater, please see my clarification.
- Femtio 5y agoI have not found anything with your link which disproof my statement.
- 4oo4 5y agoI don't think you really read any of those articles or did any deep research to learn the history of male birth control development, but the information is out there if you look harder than Wikipedia. If you want to mischaracterize me you're free to do so, even though I think we're more in agreement than it appears. My point still stands that it's not the science holding us back as much as social attitudes and pharmaceutical company decision making. Pharmaceutical companies do not see this as very profitable, so it's likely they are making false assumptions about male family planning and gender norms. Even beyond that if you take out any assumptions about male attitudes, society has taught women that they need to accept more invasive measures for family planning, and it just takes time for men to get used to that too. However, as much as attitudes are changing there are some men that will not take up this responsibility, and I say this as a progressive person that has to work with many conservative people that have extremely regressive views about gender norms that are too stubborn and willfully ignorant to be educated otherwise. I'll just leave these here for those who are actually interested in making this a reality and learning the science and history of where we're at: - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6419257/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6419257/ - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4762912/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4762912/ - https://www.healthline.com/health-news/male-birth-control https://www.healthline.com/health-news/male-birth-control - https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/male-birth-control-vasectomies-hormone-pill/ https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/male-birth-control-v...
- xscott 5y agoI'm not sure where you get your information, but it feels like you have some other axe to grind.. Nearly every single man in my circle of friends has gotten a vasectomy. Several of us knew we never wanted children and would've gotten a vasectomy in our 20s if doctors would approve it.
- henriquez 5y agoI just exclusively started having anal sex with dudes. It works wonders for preventing pregnancy and I usually don’t even need to buy them dinner first.
- 4oo4 5y agoThat's great, but sadly that's probably not representative at all. I have no axe to grind, I'm just stating the facts on why we don't have male birth control on the market. Again, please don't make assumptions about my beliefs just because this is uncomfortable to hear.
- jjtheblunt 5y agoor has society (western anyway) for decades offloaded that risk mitigation onto women, so there's momentum to the asymmetry and new adults join an asymmetry already assumed?
- henriquez 5y agoNo I think actually most guys would prefer not to pay child support, but sure, let’s blame men for everything anyway in a thread about contraceptive options.
- 4oo4 5y agoThis isn't about hatred of men, these are about the facts of why we don't yet have male birth control on the market. Men have had the easy way out compared with women for contraception for this long and sadly a lot of them want to keep it that way.