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This is off topic but as someone who grew up in a household that made their living selling things in markets, where prices were openly negotiated, I just want t

This is off topic but as someone who grew up in a household that made their living selling things in markets, where prices were openly negotiated, I just want to share a thought: While you're absolutely allowed to express that a product may not be worth a price, it seems tactless to make such a comment on a thread where the founders are announcing their product. I understand you're replying to someone who feels the product could command a higher price, but to say you're double guessing the price just seems like something you should keep to yourself. I can only imagine the amount of work this team puts into crafting these translations - similar to how family put a lot of work into the goods they sold.

pigeons 5y ago
Often pricing is an important aspect of the feedback the team wants. I agree it can seem like it lacks tact, but not taking these things personally is also something important to be ready for when launching a product. However, I do appreciate your attention towards being kind and supportive to people!
shmatt 5y ago
I imagine a post-seed startup founder is actually VERY interested in peoples negative opinions on their product, and what they would change and by VERY I mean would pay good money for a reputable company to collect said opinions
toyg 5y ago
The irony: people spend their lives telling each other semi-formalized bullshit about something not being worth the asking price, as part of ancient rituals meant to make both parties feel like they got the better of each other, but god forbid one might actually say out loud that they honestly think something might not be worthy to them. I honestly wouldn't have said anything, if it weren't for people trotting out the "charge more" mantra - which at the moment really is insensitive towards people struggling to keep the lights on. To people living and breathing manga, I'm sure this is a steal; to me, for my circumstances, it's a nice-to-have that may or may not be be worth the expense. This has nothing to do with the quality of the product - a Ferrari is a sweet piece of machinery, but to me it's not worth the sacrifices I would have to make to afford it.
latexr 5y ago
> it seems tactless to make such a comment on a thread where the founders are announcing their product (…) to say you're double guessing the price just seems like something you should keep to yourself. If you identify a pain point and keep it to yourself, you’re doing a disservice to the founders. If they charge too much and no one ever tells them, the business will fail and they won’t learn why. Honest (polite) feedback is more beneficial than trying to spare their feelings. > I can only imagine the amount of work this team puts into crafting these translation This team is for now a middleman, they haven’t put any work into the translations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30807307 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30807307

pigeons 5y ago

Often pricing is an important aspect of the feedback the team wants. I agree it can seem like it lacks tact, but not taking these things personally is also something important to be ready for when launching a product. However, I do appreciate your attention towards being kind and supportive to people!

shmatt 5y ago

I imagine a post-seed startup founder is actually VERY interested in peoples negative opinions on their product, and what they would change and by VERY I mean would pay good money for a reputable company to collect said opinions

toyg 5y ago

The irony: people spend their lives telling each other semi-formalized bullshit about something not being worth the asking price, as part of ancient rituals meant to make both parties feel like they got the better of each other, but god forbid one might actually say out loud that they honestly think something might not be worthy to them. I honestly wouldn't have said anything, if it weren't for people trotting out the "charge more" mantra - which at the moment really is insensitive towards people struggling to keep the lights on. To people living and breathing manga, I'm sure this is a steal; to me, for my circumstances, it's a nice-to-have that may or may not be be worth the expense. This has nothing to do with the quality of the product - a Ferrari is a sweet piece of machinery, but to me it's not worth the sacrifices I would have to make to afford it.

latexr 5y ago

> it seems tactless to make such a comment on a thread where the founders are announcing their product (…) to say you're double guessing the price just seems like something you should keep to yourself. If you identify a pain point and keep it to yourself, you’re doing a disservice to the founders. If they charge too much and no one ever tells them, the business will fail and they won’t learn why. Honest (polite) feedback is more beneficial than trying to spare their feelings. > I can only imagine the amount of work this team puts into crafting these translation This team is for now a middleman, they haven’t put any work into the translations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30807307 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30807307