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Xoogler here. Yes. Rule of thumb on Google things: if there is a bug/decision that bothers you, there is a contingent within Google that is furious about it.

by ternus 5y ago

gigel82 5y ago
And do their concerns get addressed somewhere up the chain? Do they even have ways to express their concerns? I've heard there's a similar contingent within Microsoft complaining about all the ads and shady privacy stuff in Windows and they're just left to fester in the echo-chamber of internal Yammer.
- soraminazuki 5y ago
  Complete outsider here, but the Goomics series shed light on Google's internal culture and one of the recurring themes is the tone deafness of management towards internal dissent. https://goomics.net/367/ https://goomics.net/367/ https://goomics.net/334/ https://goomics.net/334/ https://goomics.net/332/ https://goomics.net/332/ https://goomics.net/315/ https://goomics.net/315/ https://goomics.net/311/ https://goomics.net/311/ https://goomics.net/290/ https://goomics.net/290/ https://goomics.net/288/ https://goomics.net/288/
lmohseni 5y ago
You mean there’s a contingent within Google that further compromises their moral integrity. Edit: downvotes won’t help you sleep at night!
- 100721 5y ago
  It seems to be quite a leap from "furious with a product change" to "compromising one's moral integrity". I don't agree with every decision our PM's go with, but I don't feel compromised either.
  - lmohseni 5y ago
    > I don't feel compromised. I get it. It’s a long road from “dont be evil” to illegal wage fixing, mass ad fraud, omnipresent dragnet surveillance, and cooperation with totalitarian nation states; all of those with compunctions are long gone, the rest are like you.
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- skinnymuch 5y ago
  I’m sure all the work you’ve done and your closest loved ones have done, had amazing “moral integrity”
eminence32 5y ago
How do xooglers pronounce "xoogle" ?
- nr2x 5y ago
  “Zoo” “gull” “er”
- gaws 5y ago
  ex-Googl{e,er}.
collyw 5y ago
For technical things I still find google better, mostly because the manage to get the most recent relevant version of a library, while DDG that was my default often returned out of date versions. For anything with a political slant, hell no.

Xoogler here. Yes. Rule of thumb on Google things: if there is a bug/decision that bothers you, there is a contingent within Google that is furious about it.

by ternus 5y ago

Xoogler here. Yes. Rule of thumb on Google things: if there is a bug/decision that bothers you, there is a contingent within Google that is furious about it.

gigel82 5y ago

And do their concerns get addressed somewhere up the chain? Do they even have ways to express their concerns? I've heard there's a similar contingent within Microsoft complaining about all the ads and shady privacy stuff in Windows and they're just left to fester in the echo-chamber of internal Yammer.

soraminazuki 5y ago
Complete outsider here, but the Goomics series shed light on Google's internal culture and one of the recurring themes is the tone deafness of management towards internal dissent. https://goomics.net/367/ https://goomics.net/367/ https://goomics.net/334/ https://goomics.net/334/ https://goomics.net/332/ https://goomics.net/332/ https://goomics.net/315/ https://goomics.net/315/ https://goomics.net/311/ https://goomics.net/311/ https://goomics.net/290/ https://goomics.net/290/ https://goomics.net/288/ https://goomics.net/288/

lmohseni 5y ago

You mean there’s a contingent within Google that further compromises their moral integrity. Edit: downvotes won’t help you sleep at night!

100721 5y ago
It seems to be quite a leap from "furious with a product change" to "compromising one's moral integrity". I don't agree with every decision our PM's go with, but I don't feel compromised either.
- lmohseni 5y ago
  > I don't feel compromised. I get it. It’s a long road from “dont be evil” to illegal wage fixing, mass ad fraud, omnipresent dragnet surveillance, and cooperation with totalitarian nation states; all of those with compunctions are long gone, the rest are like you.
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skinnymuch 5y ago
I’m sure all the work you’ve done and your closest loved ones have done, had amazing “moral integrity”

eminence32 5y ago

How do xooglers pronounce "xoogle" ?

nr2x 5y ago
“Zoo” “gull” “er”
gaws 5y ago
ex-Googl{e,er}.

collyw 5y ago

For technical things I still find google better, mostly because the manage to get the most recent relevant version of a library, while DDG that was my default often returned out of date versions. For anything with a political slant, hell no.