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This is a bizarre idea. Scammers printing scam letters can just as easily print fake postmarks. > When you have to pay the postage and printing costs, it is f

by rosndo 5y ago

This is a bizarre idea. Scammers printing scam letters can just as easily print fake postmarks. > When you have to pay the postage and printing costs, it is far less attractive to throw out 10.000 scam mailings, because the ROI is quite likely negative Try to do think about the math here. What kind of scam mail are you sending to reach such bad ROI? Let’s imagine these are fake utility bills for around 50 euros and total cost to the scammer is 1 euro per letter. Your success rate would have to be incredibly bad for the ROI to be negative. Now, target tenants of rental properties instead and tell them they need to pay their rent to a new account. Profits go up 10-100x, costs stay the same.

lb1lf 5y ago
> This is a bizarre idea. > Scammers printing scam letters can just as easily print fake postmarks. -While that is true, it is impractical on at least a couple of levels: a) You need to get that fake mail into the postal system, somehow - and do so in a way which escapes attention. b) (The worrying bit, if you're a scammer) - You've just gone from attempted fraud (sending out scam emails) to defrauding the postal service of whatever country you try to pull this one off in; the authorities are quite likely to take a dim view of your efforts.
- rosndo 5y ago
  > a) You need to get that fake mail into the postal system, somehow - and do so in a way which escapes attention You pay some guy to drive around and stuff your envelopes into various post boxes 500-1000 at a time. Or just find an insider at the postal service of your choice, crime forums are full of people offering this. If you’re capable of accepting payments for fake bills, you already have people walking into banks with fake IDs to open accounts. Sending out letters is significantly less complex. > b) (The worrying bit, if you're a scammer) - You've just gone from attempted fraud (sending out scam emails) to defrauding the postal service of whatever country you try to pull this one off in; the authorities are quite likely to take a dim view of your efforts. Probably not, considering the amount of crimes involved in accepting money transfers to a drop account created with fake documents and the subsequent money laundering. Defrauding the postal service is small potatoes.

by rosndo 5y ago

lb1lf 5y ago

> This is a bizarre idea. > Scammers printing scam letters can just as easily print fake postmarks. -While that is true, it is impractical on at least a couple of levels: a) You need to get that fake mail into the postal system, somehow - and do so in a way which escapes attention. b) (The worrying bit, if you're a scammer) - You've just gone from attempted fraud (sending out scam emails) to defrauding the postal service of whatever country you try to pull this one off in; the authorities are quite likely to take a dim view of your efforts.

rosndo 5y ago
> a) You need to get that fake mail into the postal system, somehow - and do so in a way which escapes attention You pay some guy to drive around and stuff your envelopes into various post boxes 500-1000 at a time. Or just find an insider at the postal service of your choice, crime forums are full of people offering this. If you’re capable of accepting payments for fake bills, you already have people walking into banks with fake IDs to open accounts. Sending out letters is significantly less complex. > b) (The worrying bit, if you're a scammer) - You've just gone from attempted fraud (sending out scam emails) to defrauding the postal service of whatever country you try to pull this one off in; the authorities are quite likely to take a dim view of your efforts. Probably not, considering the amount of crimes involved in accepting money transfers to a drop account created with fake documents and the subsequent money laundering. Defrauding the postal service is small potatoes.