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Come back and say it on your real account, chief.

pseuds_corner 15y ago
Why? So the hordes of mawkish Steve idolisers can downvote the blasphemer? There are penalties from differing from the hivemind (slowban, hellban etc). Anonymity is the only way to communicate my level of amazement at the current mania. So forgive me if I don't do that.
- danilocampos 15y ago
  I think your behaving like a dick is probably more the trouble than your amazement. This guy meant something to a lot of people. It's okay that you're different. But let people have their moment. Go for a walk. People exist for their own purposes, not your pleasure.
- fredoliveira 15y ago
  An anonymous ass will probably be an ass with a real account too. It's a matter of time.
jarek 15y ago
Look, I'll say it on my real account. I'm not that guy. I find the outpouring of grief repetitive at best and embarrassing at worst. It's the time of year for everyone to strut out their favourite Steve stories and anecdotes. Gotta tell everyone how you feel. Tell me you can read a comment like http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078323 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078323 with a straight face.
- swombat 15y ago
  So I guess you're also the kind of guy who goes to a funeral and tells the people there to just get over it and move on?
  - jarek 15y ago
    I wouldn't say I went to Steve Jobs's funeral, unless you consider showing up on the internet today that.
    - swombat 15y ago
      Actually, given his influence, yeah, it kind of is. The fact that you bump into articles about him everywhere (even on my blog! http://swombat.com/2011/10/6/steve-jobs http://swombat.com/2011/10/6/steve-jobs ) kind of demonstrates that.
      - jarek 15y ago
        Oh, sorry. I'll go hide in my house while the funeral takes place in my backyard. edit: by the way, "If you read this far, you should follow me on twitter here" - classy.
        greyish_water 15y ago
        "Gotta tell everyone how you feel."
        jarek 15y ago
        Touché.
        swombat 15y ago
        It's not so far fetched as you seem to think. The Internet is not your backyard, it's ours. It belongs to all of us. So if you go on the web today and visit places where geeks (many of whom are touched by this event) hang out, expect to see people talking about it. If you don't like it, get out of our backyard - you're welcome back after the funeral.
- danilocampos 15y ago
  Life is a lot more enjoyable when you accept, as I've just mentioned in a cousin, that people exist for their own purposes and not your pleasure. Some people express their feelings in saccharin ways. Okay. And? Does it make those feelings, or those people, less valid that they're more Hallmark than Bob Dylan? Death is difficult. Cut people a damn break.
  - jarek 15y ago
    I'm human. I judge people and form opinions based on their behaviour. I'm not denying them the right to those behaviours. Sometimes I can't resist voicing my opinions. If you don't, I'm really happy for you. I'm confident 99% of commenters didn't know Steve Jobs personally. If his death is difficult for them, it's a problem they themselves have created.
    - protomyth 15y ago
      Nope, didn't know him personally, but his works gave me great joy and changed my career path. It is in some / most people's nature to care about those we will never meet, and I have more reasons for caring about this soul then some killed in various tragedies. I would imagine some on HN also have similar touchstones or perhaps have lost or almost lost people to cancer. Things like this are close to home for many.
    - muhfuhkuh 15y ago
      "If his death is difficult for them, it's a problem they themselves have created." He was a visible figure in people's lives. To attach emotion to someone present in your life, even if they aren't physically there, even if you don't know them in any intimate way, is natural. I recently saw a documentary where elephants walked by the skeletal remains of fallen elephants along their water migration path and touch their trunk to them in what observers deem a tribute. They likely don't even know the deceased. Would you call that a problem? That's the vexing thing about celebrity: Their seemingly open-book lifestyle (I know, he was a supremely private individual but, hey, Steve could've let anyone else do those keynotes and demos) lets us connect to them in ways that the celebrities cannot even fathom.
    - 15y ago
- tonio09 15y ago
  I've got a feeling the iPhone 4 Steve is a very clever marketing ploy by Apple. "I'll be buying an iPhone 4 Steve this friday." Emotional manipulation in its subtlest form.

Why? So the hordes of mawkish Steve idolisers can downvote the blasphemer? There are penalties from differing from the hivemind (slowban, hellban etc). Anonymity is the only way to communicate my level of amazement at the current mania. So forgive me if I don't do that.

danilocampos 15y ago
I think your behaving like a dick is probably more the trouble than your amazement. This guy meant something to a lot of people. It's okay that you're different. But let people have their moment. Go for a walk. People exist for their own purposes, not your pleasure.
fredoliveira 15y ago
An anonymous ass will probably be an ass with a real account too. It's a matter of time.

jarek 15y ago

Look, I'll say it on my real account. I'm not that guy. I find the outpouring of grief repetitive at best and embarrassing at worst. It's the time of year for everyone to strut out their favourite Steve stories and anecdotes. Gotta tell everyone how you feel. Tell me you can read a comment like http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078323 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3078323 with a straight face.

swombat 15y ago
So I guess you're also the kind of guy who goes to a funeral and tells the people there to just get over it and move on?
- jarek 15y ago
  I wouldn't say I went to Steve Jobs's funeral, unless you consider showing up on the internet today that.
  - swombat 15y ago
    Actually, given his influence, yeah, it kind of is. The fact that you bump into articles about him everywhere (even on my blog! http://swombat.com/2011/10/6/steve-jobs http://swombat.com/2011/10/6/steve-jobs ) kind of demonstrates that.
    - jarek 15y ago
      Oh, sorry. I'll go hide in my house while the funeral takes place in my backyard. edit: by the way, "If you read this far, you should follow me on twitter here" - classy.
      - greyish_water 15y ago
        "Gotta tell everyone how you feel."
        jarek 15y ago
        Touché.
      - swombat 15y ago
        It's not so far fetched as you seem to think. The Internet is not your backyard, it's ours. It belongs to all of us. So if you go on the web today and visit places where geeks (many of whom are touched by this event) hang out, expect to see people talking about it. If you don't like it, get out of our backyard - you're welcome back after the funeral.
danilocampos 15y ago
Life is a lot more enjoyable when you accept, as I've just mentioned in a cousin, that people exist for their own purposes and not your pleasure. Some people express their feelings in saccharin ways. Okay. And? Does it make those feelings, or those people, less valid that they're more Hallmark than Bob Dylan? Death is difficult. Cut people a damn break.
- jarek 15y ago
  I'm human. I judge people and form opinions based on their behaviour. I'm not denying them the right to those behaviours. Sometimes I can't resist voicing my opinions. If you don't, I'm really happy for you. I'm confident 99% of commenters didn't know Steve Jobs personally. If his death is difficult for them, it's a problem they themselves have created.
  - protomyth 15y ago
    Nope, didn't know him personally, but his works gave me great joy and changed my career path. It is in some / most people's nature to care about those we will never meet, and I have more reasons for caring about this soul then some killed in various tragedies. I would imagine some on HN also have similar touchstones or perhaps have lost or almost lost people to cancer. Things like this are close to home for many.
  - muhfuhkuh 15y ago
    "If his death is difficult for them, it's a problem they themselves have created." He was a visible figure in people's lives. To attach emotion to someone present in your life, even if they aren't physically there, even if you don't know them in any intimate way, is natural. I recently saw a documentary where elephants walked by the skeletal remains of fallen elephants along their water migration path and touch their trunk to them in what observers deem a tribute. They likely don't even know the deceased. Would you call that a problem? That's the vexing thing about celebrity: Their seemingly open-book lifestyle (I know, he was a supremely private individual but, hey, Steve could've let anyone else do those keynotes and demos) lets us connect to them in ways that the celebrities cannot even fathom.
  - 15y ago
tonio09 15y ago
I've got a feeling the iPhone 4 Steve is a very clever marketing ploy by Apple. "I'll be buying an iPhone 4 Steve this friday." Emotional manipulation in its subtlest form.