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afaik Twitch bans like these are sort of on purpose and for clout. Lots of prominent streamers are getting banned for things like live-streaming movies and TV

afaik Twitch bans like these are sort of on purpose and for clout. Lots of prominent streamers are getting banned for things like live-streaming movies and TV shows (violating some copyright). These are temporary bans (like 3 days) and the streamers are already so rich and popular they really don’t need to stream anyways. This is actually really good for Hikaru because he gets his name on more news and it makes Twitch look stupid.

0xdeadb00f 5y ago
Indeed. You're pretty spot on with this
andrewbarba 5y ago
It's good for us too - we got proper Hikaru game recaps on YouTube.
RSZC 5y ago
Disclaimer - used to work at Twitch. The policy may make Twitch look stupid, but it's for a pretty good reason - people would get banned, and then just play multiplayer (with voice or even video chat) with their friends who were also streaming. This effectively allowed them to continue to stream and interact with their audience despite their 'ban.' Agreed that people often get banned on purpose as a way of keeping their name in the news.
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  Wouldn't they not get paid still though? Or does the friend just send all donations their way? I can't imagine subbing to someone because they have a person in the lobby who I liked
  - treesprite82 5y ago
    At the extreme: Keemstar has long been banned from Youtube, but remained prominent through DramaAlert which is not technically his channel.
sph 5y ago
The fact that the streamer might gain in publicity doesn't justify these ridiculous bans, come on. Are we now saying Twitch is doing them a _favour_?
- LanceH 5y ago
  There is nothing ridiculous about suspending someone for streaming someone else who is banned. It's about as obvious as it can be that it is content that is explicitly not permitted as it has already been banned.
  - polski-g 5y ago
    It's extremely ridiculous. Does twitch publish a list of everyone they ever banned? Do they have private detectives following the bannees around to keep track of their real name and appearance and online handle? For all time? When the list is 100k entries long, does twitch expect every new entryant to twitch to review it? To hire their own PIs to determine who or what a "DrDisrespect" is? And repeat the process for every entry in the 100k long list?
- lawl 5y ago
  Yes, because multiple big popular streamers have said that it's a net positive if you can keep the moral high ground, as you will come back and have more viewers than before. Judging from your comment, i believe you think he has the moral high ground. The ban itself doesn't need to be justified to say that he can (and most certainly will) profit from this ban. The next logical step is to think about streamers provoking (short) bans where twitch looks dumb and hacker news discusses them when it normally wouldn't. Was that the case here? No idea. Is it especially unlikely, I don't think so.

0xdeadb00f 5y ago

Indeed. You're pretty spot on with this

andrewbarba 5y ago

It's good for us too - we got proper Hikaru game recaps on YouTube.

RSZC 5y ago

Disclaimer - used to work at Twitch. The policy may make Twitch look stupid, but it's for a pretty good reason - people would get banned, and then just play multiplayer (with voice or even video chat) with their friends who were also streaming. This effectively allowed them to continue to stream and interact with their audience despite their 'ban.' Agreed that people often get banned on purpose as a way of keeping their name in the news.

thatguy0900 5y ago
Wouldn't they not get paid still though? Or does the friend just send all donations their way? I can't imagine subbing to someone because they have a person in the lobby who I liked
- treesprite82 5y ago
  At the extreme: Keemstar has long been banned from Youtube, but remained prominent through DramaAlert which is not technically his channel.

sph 5y ago

The fact that the streamer might gain in publicity doesn't justify these ridiculous bans, come on. Are we now saying Twitch is doing them a _favour_?

LanceH 5y ago
There is nothing ridiculous about suspending someone for streaming someone else who is banned. It's about as obvious as it can be that it is content that is explicitly not permitted as it has already been banned.
- polski-g 5y ago
  It's extremely ridiculous. Does twitch publish a list of everyone they ever banned? Do they have private detectives following the bannees around to keep track of their real name and appearance and online handle? For all time? When the list is 100k entries long, does twitch expect every new entryant to twitch to review it? To hire their own PIs to determine who or what a "DrDisrespect" is? And repeat the process for every entry in the 100k long list?
lawl 5y ago
Yes, because multiple big popular streamers have said that it's a net positive if you can keep the moral high ground, as you will come back and have more viewers than before. Judging from your comment, i believe you think he has the moral high ground. The ban itself doesn't need to be justified to say that he can (and most certainly will) profit from this ban. The next logical step is to think about streamers provoking (short) bans where twitch looks dumb and hacker news discusses them when it normally wouldn't. Was that the case here? No idea. Is it especially unlikely, I don't think so.