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Wozniak remembers Steve Jobs

537 points by flamingbuffalo 15y ago

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davi 15y ago
watch 'til the end, Woz chokes up (and made me do the same)
- Torn 15y ago
  Yeah I wasn't expecting that, and teared up almost as fast as Woz did.
  - felipellrocha 15y ago
    Same here. Jobs might've been a great business partner for Woz, but you can clearly see that Woz saw Jobs as friend above everything else from those tears.
  - MikeCapone 15y ago
    It got me too.
- redthrowaway 15y ago
  I actually found that distasteful. They kept the camera rolling after they told him it was over, specifically to catch that kind of a moment. It strikes me as dishonest and sensationalistic. Give the man his privacy.
  - scelerat 15y ago
    nah. it's okay to cry when your friend dies. it's okay for journalists to show people being human.
GR8K 15y ago
Also available on AP's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK_XEGrzHUo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK_XEGrzHUo
rmason 15y ago
If you ever get the chance to hear Woz speak drop everything and do it. As I mentioned on HN before http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2524640 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2524640 I heard him address MSU engineering students after he received his honorary doctorate. He left an indelible impression on all of us that day that is still resonating months later. Made all of us want to go build something!
alanfalcon 15y ago
How terrible is it that the one to break the news to Woz was a reporter looking to get Woz's take?
- dpark 15y ago
  I'm pretty sure this happens a lot. Reporters get word of famous persons's death and then frantically try to be the first to get a reaction from the deceased's family, friends, etc. But yes, it's quite terrible.
iancanderson 15y ago
I'm glad Woz remembers Steve. It'd be weird if he didn't.
JunkDNA 15y ago
Reminds me what an incredible guy Woz is as well. Makes me wish I could have been there as the two of them debated the future of the personal computer in their garage.
- ajross 15y ago
  Not sure that would have been as enlightening as you think. They worked together on the Apple II, not the Mac. And the 6502 boxes were all Woz on the inside. His design, his software. Jobs added the box, the polish and the marketing. But all the look and feel wizardry and attention to detail was still in his future. Apple bootstrapped by selling a machine that was fundamentally the work of a single hacker. Edit: I should explain more of my perspective here. Woz doesn't get remotely as much recognition as he deserves for Apple's success. Jobs was the executive, his leadership style, "force of taste" and personality were able to scale to Apple as it exists today. But by itself that would have gotten him zilch in 1976. Apple exists at all because One Guy was able to put together a single box at a production price point that wouldn't be matched for 7 years. The Apple II video hardware and especially the disk controller (both implemented with just a handful of off-the-shelf logic chips, no ASICs involved) were works of true, absolute, genius. Circuit design like that probably won't ever happen again.
  - enry_straker 15y ago
    You have put into words my thoughts exactly. To be sure, i am a bit of a woz fanboy, having lived through the 80's and poring over his work. Though i don't begrudge Jobs the fame and fortune, i do think a lot of people overlook woz. To me, he is probably the single most influential pioneer in the history of personal computing.
    - marquis 15y ago
      Yes, Woz is my hero also but we have to consider - without Steve would we have seen Woz's brilliance? Great partnerships are difficult to untangle as to who influenced who, the greater.
jedberg 15y ago
Woz's site was down yesterday. I went there looking for this. Anyone have a link to the unedited video? I'm kind of curious what they cut out.
j45 15y ago
After seeing this, it might be the only remembrance about Steve Jobs I need to hear. We rarely take a minute to make a stranger into a person, and Woz shows how friendship remains above all else. All we have is the memories we make and create together.
robertleeper7 15y ago
A wonderful video - best thing I seen about Steve's passing. Woz is right. The dynamic of the two is what made Apple great. It's a classic case of a partnership that works with the sum being greater than the whole. Design (vision x moxie) + Ability (brains x sweat) = Great. And let's not forget the countless unsung worker bees who actually make it all happen. Viva Apple! His best line is about how entrepreneurs (like them) make something out of nothing but their ideas and passion. Thanks Woz and Steve
- j45 15y ago
  While this is about Steve Jobs, it was amazing how 1+1=11 with the two of them together. I have often wished that Woz continued to design products with Apple long after he left. What if he had been there with Steve all this time? If Woz invented the personal computer for the masses (Apple I, II, and building the Macintosh before Steve Jobs joined the team), what other unknown potential hasn't happened yet? The other interesting thing is where Steve Jobs was seen as aloof and business minded, Steve Wozniak more than made up for it with heart. A healthy, hearty and brainy balance if I may say.
ww520 15y ago
Apple IIgs was my first computer and 6502 assembly was my first computer language. Woz was an amazingly talented guy, though I remember I had a hard time dealing with the non-contiguous video memory that he came up with on Apple II.
javert 15y ago
How does Woz saying that Steve Jobs was incredibly kind, sync up with the statment on Jobs' Wikipedia page that Jobs stole thousands of dollars from Woz when they were both at Atari [1]? Is there something more to this story? [1] search for $700 on Jobs' wikipedia page
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- CamperBob 15y ago
  People change.
- yters 15y ago
  I've read him say that he didn't think it was a big deal. Woz seems a pretty forgiving guy. Me, I'd be pissed b/c people like Jobs always seems to think engineers are just sitting around waiting to get punked. I hate that someone has to be like Jobs to do so well. But, I also recognize he was successful and had a great vision, I won't begrudge him that. Why can't goodness and success go together more often, without good people just looking like patsies?
  - javert 15y ago
    You don't have to be dishonest to do well.
- lurker19 15y ago
  Because Wozniak is a kindhearted man and because Jobs did eventually pay it back with 10000% interest. Wozniak would never have become a millionaire without a salesman like Jobs. The greatest hacker will never overcome economics.
bountyreaper 15y ago
Best Steve Duo
EREFUNDO 15y ago
Steve Wozniak was the real tech wizard, but Steve Jobs was the visionary. Job's ability to empathize with users is beyond belief. He knew what people wanted before they even knew what they wanted. Bill Gates also had a strikingly similar vision. He famously said that "We have to figure out what a person needs that he doesn't know he needs. Then we make him realize that he does need it and we're the only ones who could give him the answer." Maybe he was copying Steve Jobs, wouldn't be the first time.

537 points by flamingbuffalo 15y ago

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davi 15y ago

watch 'til the end, Woz chokes up (and made me do the same)

Torn 15y ago
Yeah I wasn't expecting that, and teared up almost as fast as Woz did.
- felipellrocha 15y ago
  Same here. Jobs might've been a great business partner for Woz, but you can clearly see that Woz saw Jobs as friend above everything else from those tears.
- MikeCapone 15y ago
  It got me too.
redthrowaway 15y ago
I actually found that distasteful. They kept the camera rolling after they told him it was over, specifically to catch that kind of a moment. It strikes me as dishonest and sensationalistic. Give the man his privacy.
- scelerat 15y ago
  nah. it's okay to cry when your friend dies. it's okay for journalists to show people being human.

GR8K 15y ago

Also available on AP's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK_XEGrzHUo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK_XEGrzHUo

rmason 15y ago

If you ever get the chance to hear Woz speak drop everything and do it. As I mentioned on HN before http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2524640 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2524640 I heard him address MSU engineering students after he received his honorary doctorate. He left an indelible impression on all of us that day that is still resonating months later. Made all of us want to go build something!

alanfalcon 15y ago

How terrible is it that the one to break the news to Woz was a reporter looking to get Woz's take?

dpark 15y ago
I'm pretty sure this happens a lot. Reporters get word of famous persons's death and then frantically try to be the first to get a reaction from the deceased's family, friends, etc. But yes, it's quite terrible.

iancanderson 15y ago

I'm glad Woz remembers Steve. It'd be weird if he didn't.

JunkDNA 15y ago

Reminds me what an incredible guy Woz is as well. Makes me wish I could have been there as the two of them debated the future of the personal computer in their garage.

ajross 15y ago
Not sure that would have been as enlightening as you think. They worked together on the Apple II, not the Mac. And the 6502 boxes were all Woz on the inside. His design, his software. Jobs added the box, the polish and the marketing. But all the look and feel wizardry and attention to detail was still in his future. Apple bootstrapped by selling a machine that was fundamentally the work of a single hacker. Edit: I should explain more of my perspective here. Woz doesn't get remotely as much recognition as he deserves for Apple's success. Jobs was the executive, his leadership style, "force of taste" and personality were able to scale to Apple as it exists today. But by itself that would have gotten him zilch in 1976. Apple exists at all because One Guy was able to put together a single box at a production price point that wouldn't be matched for 7 years. The Apple II video hardware and especially the disk controller (both implemented with just a handful of off-the-shelf logic chips, no ASICs involved) were works of true, absolute, genius. Circuit design like that probably won't ever happen again.
- enry_straker 15y ago
  You have put into words my thoughts exactly. To be sure, i am a bit of a woz fanboy, having lived through the 80's and poring over his work. Though i don't begrudge Jobs the fame and fortune, i do think a lot of people overlook woz. To me, he is probably the single most influential pioneer in the history of personal computing.
  - marquis 15y ago
    Yes, Woz is my hero also but we have to consider - without Steve would we have seen Woz's brilliance? Great partnerships are difficult to untangle as to who influenced who, the greater.

jedberg 15y ago

Woz's site was down yesterday. I went there looking for this. Anyone have a link to the unedited video? I'm kind of curious what they cut out.

j45 15y ago

After seeing this, it might be the only remembrance about Steve Jobs I need to hear. We rarely take a minute to make a stranger into a person, and Woz shows how friendship remains above all else. All we have is the memories we make and create together.

robertleeper7 15y ago

A wonderful video - best thing I seen about Steve's passing. Woz is right. The dynamic of the two is what made Apple great. It's a classic case of a partnership that works with the sum being greater than the whole. Design (vision x moxie) + Ability (brains x sweat) = Great. And let's not forget the countless unsung worker bees who actually make it all happen. Viva Apple! His best line is about how entrepreneurs (like them) make something out of nothing but their ideas and passion. Thanks Woz and Steve

j45 15y ago
While this is about Steve Jobs, it was amazing how 1+1=11 with the two of them together. I have often wished that Woz continued to design products with Apple long after he left. What if he had been there with Steve all this time? If Woz invented the personal computer for the masses (Apple I, II, and building the Macintosh before Steve Jobs joined the team), what other unknown potential hasn't happened yet? The other interesting thing is where Steve Jobs was seen as aloof and business minded, Steve Wozniak more than made up for it with heart. A healthy, hearty and brainy balance if I may say.

ww520 15y ago

Apple IIgs was my first computer and 6502 assembly was my first computer language. Woz was an amazingly talented guy, though I remember I had a hard time dealing with the non-contiguous video memory that he came up with on Apple II.

javert 15y ago

How does Woz saying that Steve Jobs was incredibly kind, sync up with the statment on Jobs' Wikipedia page that Jobs stole thousands of dollars from Woz when they were both at Atari [1]? Is there something more to this story? [1] search for $700 on Jobs' wikipedia page

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CamperBob 15y ago
People change.
yters 15y ago
I've read him say that he didn't think it was a big deal. Woz seems a pretty forgiving guy. Me, I'd be pissed b/c people like Jobs always seems to think engineers are just sitting around waiting to get punked. I hate that someone has to be like Jobs to do so well. But, I also recognize he was successful and had a great vision, I won't begrudge him that. Why can't goodness and success go together more often, without good people just looking like patsies?
- javert 15y ago
  You don't have to be dishonest to do well.
lurker19 15y ago
Because Wozniak is a kindhearted man and because Jobs did eventually pay it back with 10000% interest. Wozniak would never have become a millionaire without a salesman like Jobs. The greatest hacker will never overcome economics.

bountyreaper 15y ago

Best Steve Duo

EREFUNDO 15y ago

Steve Wozniak was the real tech wizard, but Steve Jobs was the visionary. Job's ability to empathize with users is beyond belief. He knew what people wanted before they even knew what they wanted. Bill Gates also had a strikingly similar vision. He famously said that "We have to figure out what a person needs that he doesn't know he needs. Then we make him realize that he does need it and we're the only ones who could give him the answer." Maybe he was copying Steve Jobs, wouldn't be the first time.