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I sincerely never thought I'd see Fisher on HN. His work is fantastic, tying together politics, pop culture, and philosophy into a cogent reading of our times.

I sincerely never thought I'd see Fisher on HN. His work is fantastic, tying together politics, pop culture, and philosophy into a cogent reading of our times. I would recommend reading Capitalist Realism over Ghosts of My Life if you're looking to get a sense of his ideas, or, at least I found the latter to be a harder read to get into. Both are good. Younger folks have more and more trouble imagining a better world. It's crippling.

teraku 5y ago
Hard agree (albeit me being "younger folks")
NoGravitas 5y ago
My favorite of his works is The Weird and the Eerie. Capitalist Realism is good/important for making some of Gramsci's ideas more accessible to a contemporary and non-academic audience, but it's not as original.
sosull 5y ago
Same sentiment here. Seeing the words 'Mark Fisher' at the top of HN is an utter shock. How is this possible? What else might be possible?
- pizza 5y ago
  I dunno, I have repeatedly seen the Adam Curtis/Mark Fisher/Walter Benjamin/Theodor Adorno contingent on HN come out of the woodwork when necessary :)
- greenie_beans 5y ago
  Same. I was like “surely this isn’t the mark fisher?”
  - randomsilence 5y ago
    >>What else might be possible? This comes very close to: >Fisher feared that we were losing our ability to conceptualize a tomorrow that was radically different from our present. On the other hand, HN's 'What to Submit' [1]: >anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Has hn become too much a thing that it has become its own information bubble? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
circlefavshape 5y ago
> Younger folks have more and more trouble imagining a better world. It's crippling. Not the young folks I know. My 16 year old has a very strong vision of a better world, as do many of her friends
- 30367286 5y ago
  Do you believe they have the tools to create that vision of a better world?
- awild 5y ago
  What fisher and I suppose GP is saying that a future radically different from our own. Especially one that is not inherently just window dressed capitalism. In zizeks words "it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism" Without context these sound like hollow leftie catchphrases but especially Mark Fisher managed to show in many ways how this manifests in capitalist realism
  - rektide 5y ago
    Escaping the bitter long path dependency we're on- not just trying to rectify some wrongs, but to really make better goes, make some changes to really try over, try better- it's so hard. I really want to see a more progressive activitism take off, see some shared hope for much wider, much better. Rather than just tangling with iniquities, trying to vault to a higher level.
- ancientworldnow 5y ago
  They almost certainly envision a world similar to now but with the glaring problems fixed. Mark Fisher is writing about the inability to imagine and begin to create entirely new futures (for examples look to the utopianism of early 20th century futurism).
wahnfrieden 5y ago
Graeber pairs nicely

teraku 5y ago

Hard agree (albeit me being "younger folks")

NoGravitas 5y ago

My favorite of his works is The Weird and the Eerie. Capitalist Realism is good/important for making some of Gramsci's ideas more accessible to a contemporary and non-academic audience, but it's not as original.

sosull 5y ago

Same sentiment here. Seeing the words 'Mark Fisher' at the top of HN is an utter shock. How is this possible? What else might be possible?

pizza 5y ago
I dunno, I have repeatedly seen the Adam Curtis/Mark Fisher/Walter Benjamin/Theodor Adorno contingent on HN come out of the woodwork when necessary :)
greenie_beans 5y ago
Same. I was like “surely this isn’t the mark fisher?”
- randomsilence 5y ago
  >>What else might be possible? This comes very close to: >Fisher feared that we were losing our ability to conceptualize a tomorrow that was radically different from our present. On the other hand, HN's 'What to Submit' [1]: >anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Has hn become too much a thing that it has become its own information bubble? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

circlefavshape 5y ago

> Younger folks have more and more trouble imagining a better world. It's crippling. Not the young folks I know. My 16 year old has a very strong vision of a better world, as do many of her friends

30367286 5y ago
Do you believe they have the tools to create that vision of a better world?
awild 5y ago
What fisher and I suppose GP is saying that a future radically different from our own. Especially one that is not inherently just window dressed capitalism. In zizeks words "it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism" Without context these sound like hollow leftie catchphrases but especially Mark Fisher managed to show in many ways how this manifests in capitalist realism
- rektide 5y ago
  Escaping the bitter long path dependency we're on- not just trying to rectify some wrongs, but to really make better goes, make some changes to really try over, try better- it's so hard. I really want to see a more progressive activitism take off, see some shared hope for much wider, much better. Rather than just tangling with iniquities, trying to vault to a higher level.
ancientworldnow 5y ago
They almost certainly envision a world similar to now but with the glaring problems fixed. Mark Fisher is writing about the inability to imagine and begin to create entirely new futures (for examples look to the utopianism of early 20th century futurism).

wahnfrieden 5y ago

Graeber pairs nicely