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Because 1PW has managed to place themselves on the “wrong” side of multiple issues that the HN user base is passionate about in a kind of piss off nerds speedru

by poink 5y ago

Because 1PW has managed to place themselves on the “wrong” side of multiple issues that the HN user base is passionate about in a kind of piss off nerds speedrun. Transitioning to subscriberware + converting your beloved native apps to Electron + raising a bunch of money so you can abandon your loyal users to chase the enterprise market is a trifecta that is catnip for this site’s front page.

dataflow 5y ago
I haven't been following the company, but I'm confused - what do you mean by transitioning to subscriberware? was it not always a subscription thing?
- newscracker 5y ago
  No, it originally started as standalone apps with licenses you could purchase for each platform (at that time it was mainly Mac, and a poorer alternative on Windows). You could decide where to store the encrypted password file(s) and sync them however you wanted. You could choose to upgrade to a new version, or not. Then it changed to the subscription model and a move to storing the passwords on the cloud. At the same time, the company also hid the standalone license option from all the main and help pages where one would look for it (and it required asking in the forums to get a link). There’s a lot to write about how the company built a good reputation in the beginning and then worked very hard to dig itself deep underground.
  - cassianoleal 5y ago
    Wait, is it still possible to get off the subscription wagon but keep using the latest version?
    - drcongo 5y ago
      The standalone version gets more and more crippled with every release. Agile Bits really hate their users.
      - cassianoleal 5y ago
        I can imagine. If it gives me local access to my data without paying for a subscription though, it might be all I need before I can transition fully to Bitwarden. The problem I have with both right now is that neither have arm64 clients for Linux.
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by poink 5y ago

dataflow 5y ago

I haven't been following the company, but I'm confused - what do you mean by transitioning to subscriberware? was it not always a subscription thing?

newscracker 5y ago
No, it originally started as standalone apps with licenses you could purchase for each platform (at that time it was mainly Mac, and a poorer alternative on Windows). You could decide where to store the encrypted password file(s) and sync them however you wanted. You could choose to upgrade to a new version, or not. Then it changed to the subscription model and a move to storing the passwords on the cloud. At the same time, the company also hid the standalone license option from all the main and help pages where one would look for it (and it required asking in the forums to get a link). There’s a lot to write about how the company built a good reputation in the beginning and then worked very hard to dig itself deep underground.
- cassianoleal 5y ago
  Wait, is it still possible to get off the subscription wagon but keep using the latest version?
  - drcongo 5y ago
    The standalone version gets more and more crippled with every release. Agile Bits really hate their users.
    - cassianoleal 5y ago
      I can imagine. If it gives me local access to my data without paying for a subscription though, it might be all I need before I can transition fully to Bitwarden. The problem I have with both right now is that neither have arm64 clients for Linux.
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