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> New needs, new expectations, new styles in design. The article focus on the settings control panel. What new needs and expectations does the new settings con

> New needs, new expectations, new styles in design. The article focus on the settings control panel. What new needs and expectations does the new settings control panel in 2022 have compared to 2010?

azinman2 5y ago
The article is really about GTK3 versus GTK4, using the settings pane as an example. My comment is about the larger picture. However, take a look at what it meant to reset your default settings in 2010: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/restore-default-gnome-settings-in-ubuntu-quick-tip https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/restore-default-gnome-se... Settings panes are still largely confusing on all platforms, commercial included, as you broaden your user base. They've also grown in utility as iOS has pushed the idea of a centralized place for settings for all aspects of the system (apps included), which you're starting to see elements of on other platforms as well. There's plenty of room for improvement, including simplifying everything down so that few settings can make big differences where the heavy lifting is done for you. Linux in particular suffers from this, from a legacy of a million .conf files everywhere that many people blindly copy-pasta'd random configurations they found online (I'm looking at you XFree86).
rtpg 5y ago
To play a bit in this space, if you check out the settings panel in Ubuntu compared to, say, the Windows XP control panel, you'll see that Gnome's settings panel is more usable. Mainly on account of having a single entry point, and the search bar on the top. I think a lot of this is influenced by modern MacOS and iOS settings management (much like, to my recollection, Gnome 2 settings panels were very influenced by how Windows was doing things). It's not like it's 100% better, but for my usage it's felt nicer. There are also a lot more work in this idea that there are many different ways to get to a settings pane. That way it's easier for people to get to a thing even if they have different ideas of where it "should" be
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  KDE plasma settings is far more usable because it has a single entry point and a search function that actually works.

azinman2 5y ago

The article is really about GTK3 versus GTK4, using the settings pane as an example. My comment is about the larger picture. However, take a look at what it meant to reset your default settings in 2010: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/restore-default-gnome-settings-in-ubuntu-quick-tip https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/restore-default-gnome-se... Settings panes are still largely confusing on all platforms, commercial included, as you broaden your user base. They've also grown in utility as iOS has pushed the idea of a centralized place for settings for all aspects of the system (apps included), which you're starting to see elements of on other platforms as well. There's plenty of room for improvement, including simplifying everything down so that few settings can make big differences where the heavy lifting is done for you. Linux in particular suffers from this, from a legacy of a million .conf files everywhere that many people blindly copy-pasta'd random configurations they found online (I'm looking at you XFree86).

rtpg 5y ago

To play a bit in this space, if you check out the settings panel in Ubuntu compared to, say, the Windows XP control panel, you'll see that Gnome's settings panel is more usable. Mainly on account of having a single entry point, and the search bar on the top. I think a lot of this is influenced by modern MacOS and iOS settings management (much like, to my recollection, Gnome 2 settings panels were very influenced by how Windows was doing things). It's not like it's 100% better, but for my usage it's felt nicer. There are also a lot more work in this idea that there are many different ways to get to a settings pane. That way it's easier for people to get to a thing even if they have different ideas of where it "should" be

michaelmrose 5y ago
KDE plasma settings is far more usable because it has a single entry point and a search function that actually works.