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> but now everyone agrees that was a huge mistake Citation needed. Not everyone agrees. > Maybe there are genuine disorders affecting some aspects of the less

by azth 5y ago

> but now everyone agrees that was a huge mistake Citation needed. Not everyone agrees. > Maybe there are genuine disorders affecting some aspects of the less commonly found gender / identity phenomena. I'm not an expert. I don't know. I'm guessing you aren't either. You don't have to be an expert to see the parallels between this and any other fad we've seen before, such as hipsters and goths and emos and punks. > I'd prefer to error on the side of respecting the way someone feels We're witnessing postmodernism today, where everything is relative, and no absolute truths exist anymore. What you mentioned is a symptom of that way of thinking.

dwaltrip 5y ago
Oh hey, it’s you from the other thread. You never explained to me why you think evolution is false :) Morality is an evolved trait. It doesn’t come from a god, so that’s why don’t need to worry that a religious book tells you ”being gay is wrong”.
- azth 5y ago
  We have an intrinsic sense of morality by means of what Islam calls "Fitrah" - the natural disposition which God instilled in us. This is why people are naturally inclined to believe in The Creator. This does not mean that the Fitrah cannot be concealed and/or corrupted. A lot of society today still has remnants and fragments of Truths from the previous Messages. In the West, this manifests through the remnants of Truth from Judaism and Christianity, even though they have been corrupted, generally speaking. Once we establish, through proof and evidence, the True message from God, then it is only rational to obey and submit (e.g. see https://www.provingislam.com/ https://www.provingislam.com/). What is wrong, or why something is wrong may not be immediately apparent to us. As long as God ordained it, we would be irrational not to obey.
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- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  “ Morality is an evolved trait. “ This is one of many opinions. In a diverse society it’s better not to speak in absolutes, lest you fall for the relativistic trap of ‘there is no absolute truth except this sentence’.

by azth 5y ago

dwaltrip 5y ago

Oh hey, it’s you from the other thread. You never explained to me why you think evolution is false :) Morality is an evolved trait. It doesn’t come from a god, so that’s why don’t need to worry that a religious book tells you ”being gay is wrong”.

azth 5y ago
We have an intrinsic sense of morality by means of what Islam calls "Fitrah" - the natural disposition which God instilled in us. This is why people are naturally inclined to believe in The Creator. This does not mean that the Fitrah cannot be concealed and/or corrupted. A lot of society today still has remnants and fragments of Truths from the previous Messages. In the West, this manifests through the remnants of Truth from Judaism and Christianity, even though they have been corrupted, generally speaking. Once we establish, through proof and evidence, the True message from God, then it is only rational to obey and submit (e.g. see https://www.provingislam.com/ https://www.provingislam.com/). What is wrong, or why something is wrong may not be immediately apparent to us. As long as God ordained it, we would be irrational not to obey.
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mensetmanusman 5y ago
“ Morality is an evolved trait. “ This is one of many opinions. In a diverse society it’s better not to speak in absolutes, lest you fall for the relativistic trap of ‘there is no absolute truth except this sentence’.