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See my comment to your sibling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30797059 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30797059 Equating gender / identity phenomen

See my comment to your sibling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30797059 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30797059 Equating gender / identity phenomena with wanting to be considered "strong and handsome" is not very... charitable. The whole pronoun thing is massively overblown from what I've seen. Very, very, very few people are asking for unusual pronouns. Calling someone "they / their" is not hard. I live in LA and only come across someone asking once or twice. It's not a big deal. For what it is worth, I sort of agree with you on the unusual pronouns. I'm not sure what I would do if someone asked me to call them some pronoun I've never heard of. I'm usually pretty agreeable, so I would try to be polite. But it would probably weird me out a bit. However, I don't even know if I will ever face this scenario. I'm not too worried about it :)

xdennis 5y ago
- dwaltrip 5y ago
  You haven’t made an argument for why you think it is a lie. It would be helpful if you did that.
  - pcmoney 5y ago
    I dont think it is a lie if everyone’s truth is “equal” but I also dont think my preferences should be able to control others speech, even though I personally don’t mind using preferred pronouns. Even if offense was intended, you don’t tend to get jail time for insulting someone.
    - fzeroracer 5y ago
      We already do this in our every day life. If you talk to someone named Johnny and repeatedly call them John against their wishes (perhaps they just hate that shorthand name for whatever reason), you're likely going to get them to a point where it agitates them. And if you keep doing so at work it'll likely get you fired.
      - pcmoney 5y ago
        Sure but getting fired/agitating someone is different than the government putting me in prison for words.
- a_shovel 5y ago
  Your source is a site solely dedicated to anti-transgender propaganda. Every second headline on the front page is "transgender person commits crime". The headline for this article even invents the unwieldy term "Male Who Identifies as Female" so that it can avoid saying "Trans Woman," presumably because it would be too respectful of her. I wasn't able to find a better source than this, presumably because "Man Jailed 21 Days, Fined For Harassing Woman In Street" isn't the kind of headline to make international news (and I don't speak Norwegian).

xdennis 5y ago

dwaltrip 5y ago
You haven’t made an argument for why you think it is a lie. It would be helpful if you did that.
- pcmoney 5y ago
  I dont think it is a lie if everyone’s truth is “equal” but I also dont think my preferences should be able to control others speech, even though I personally don’t mind using preferred pronouns. Even if offense was intended, you don’t tend to get jail time for insulting someone.
  - fzeroracer 5y ago
    We already do this in our every day life. If you talk to someone named Johnny and repeatedly call them John against their wishes (perhaps they just hate that shorthand name for whatever reason), you're likely going to get them to a point where it agitates them. And if you keep doing so at work it'll likely get you fired.
    - pcmoney 5y ago
      Sure but getting fired/agitating someone is different than the government putting me in prison for words.
a_shovel 5y ago
Your source is a site solely dedicated to anti-transgender propaganda. Every second headline on the front page is "transgender person commits crime". The headline for this article even invents the unwieldy term "Male Who Identifies as Female" so that it can avoid saying "Trans Woman," presumably because it would be too respectful of her. I wasn't able to find a better source than this, presumably because "Man Jailed 21 Days, Fined For Harassing Woman In Street" isn't the kind of headline to make international news (and I don't speak Norwegian).