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The flatness of some UIs along with the removal of some visual cues has happened that I have tapped on things that aren't actually a button thinking that they m

The flatness of some UIs along with the removal of some visual cues has happened that I have tapped on things that aren't actually a button thinking that they might be one. When I make my own apps one day, I am going to ignore design fads and only make intuitive interfaces.

Forgeties79 5y ago
Just go full-audacity and drown people in drop down menus lol at least I know what to click!
- WesolyKubeczek 5y ago
  Audacity is a piece that made me learn its hotkeys. Once you do that, it’s pretty nice actually.
  - znowcone 5y ago
    It works, I guess. But after I've worked with a proper DAW (Reaper in my case), Audacity felt like a toy
    - Forgeties79 5y ago
      A toy with the best noise cancellation tool of any audio program out there though.
calvinmorrison 5y ago
we started using Full Story at work. It tracks clicks on non clickable items. It is staggering that this is even a problem. Having to explain to people that links and buttons and radio boxes and checkboxes should look uniform has gone the way of the dodo and now we must instead have people clicking random items to hope something happens.
- totalkrill 5y ago
  > It tracks clicks on non clickable items This rattled my brain, that this is a feature now, says volumes about the quality decline in UI. I am a developer, and mainly use tools on the command line, or with TUIs. But whenever I use android apps and websites, I constantly find myself longclicking or rightclicking things, hoping for stuff to happen, that just doesnt.
  - Sunspark 5y ago
    It is interesting to contemplate how much of this problem is artificially induced by executives in suits screaming at people to "innovate". Strangely enough, we don't seem to mess around with steering wheels in cars.
cout 5y ago
If you really want to go against the grain, may I suggest radial menus, which allow the user to muscle-memory through menu selections: https://bindpose.com/custom-marking-menu-maya-python/ https://bindpose.com/custom-marking-menu-maya-python/
- userbinator 5y ago
  Interesting concept, but I would add keyboard shortcuts (underlined items) to the menu to make it more of a reminder than be forced to use the mouse all the time.
  - smegger001 5y ago
    That was originally part of the IBM Common User Access style guide 80/90s, back when user interfaces for software valued function over form. https://ia800200.us.archive.org/0/items/ibmsj2703E/ibmsj2703E.pdf https://ia800200.us.archive.org/0/items/ibmsj2703E/ibmsj2703... the figure on page 2 shows exactly what you are describing.
- RedShift1 5y ago
  Visually nice but it's almost always going to overlap the thing you've right clicked. Under any circumstance I still want to see the thing I've right clicked.
- sph 5y ago
  Fly-Pie, a radial menu for GNOME: https://github.com/Schneegans/Fly-Pie https://github.com/Schneegans/Fly-Pie
- account42 5y ago
  This and many variants of the idea has been explored in games a lot - in particular in point and click adventures and isometric (or at least top-down view) RPGs. Probably also in strategy games and anything else that has both a cursor and context-specific actions.

Forgeties79 5y ago

Just go full-audacity and drown people in drop down menus lol at least I know what to click!

WesolyKubeczek 5y ago
Audacity is a piece that made me learn its hotkeys. Once you do that, it’s pretty nice actually.
- znowcone 5y ago
  It works, I guess. But after I've worked with a proper DAW (Reaper in my case), Audacity felt like a toy
  - Forgeties79 5y ago
    A toy with the best noise cancellation tool of any audio program out there though.

calvinmorrison 5y ago

we started using Full Story at work. It tracks clicks on non clickable items. It is staggering that this is even a problem. Having to explain to people that links and buttons and radio boxes and checkboxes should look uniform has gone the way of the dodo and now we must instead have people clicking random items to hope something happens.

totalkrill 5y ago
> It tracks clicks on non clickable items This rattled my brain, that this is a feature now, says volumes about the quality decline in UI. I am a developer, and mainly use tools on the command line, or with TUIs. But whenever I use android apps and websites, I constantly find myself longclicking or rightclicking things, hoping for stuff to happen, that just doesnt.
- Sunspark 5y ago
  It is interesting to contemplate how much of this problem is artificially induced by executives in suits screaming at people to "innovate". Strangely enough, we don't seem to mess around with steering wheels in cars.

cout 5y ago

If you really want to go against the grain, may I suggest radial menus, which allow the user to muscle-memory through menu selections: https://bindpose.com/custom-marking-menu-maya-python/ https://bindpose.com/custom-marking-menu-maya-python/

userbinator 5y ago
Interesting concept, but I would add keyboard shortcuts (underlined items) to the menu to make it more of a reminder than be forced to use the mouse all the time.
- smegger001 5y ago
  That was originally part of the IBM Common User Access style guide 80/90s, back when user interfaces for software valued function over form. https://ia800200.us.archive.org/0/items/ibmsj2703E/ibmsj2703E.pdf https://ia800200.us.archive.org/0/items/ibmsj2703E/ibmsj2703... the figure on page 2 shows exactly what you are describing.
RedShift1 5y ago
Visually nice but it's almost always going to overlap the thing you've right clicked. Under any circumstance I still want to see the thing I've right clicked.
sph 5y ago
Fly-Pie, a radial menu for GNOME: https://github.com/Schneegans/Fly-Pie https://github.com/Schneegans/Fly-Pie
account42 5y ago
This and many variants of the idea has been explored in games a lot - in particular in point and click adventures and isometric (or at least top-down view) RPGs. Probably also in strategy games and anything else that has both a cursor and context-specific actions.