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> How about people figure out how much money they need to afford the lifestyle they want and then get a job that pays that much? What if your lifestyle consis
by gotaquestion 5y ago
> How about people figure out how much money they need to afford the lifestyle they want and then get a job that pays that much?
What if your lifestyle consists of:
1. pay off student loans in 10 years
2. be able to take transit to work (can't afford a car)
3. save at least 5% of take home pay to get a used car
4. eat ramen and salad
5. maybe see a movie once a month, or go to a bar twice a month
6. internet & cell phone
7. try not to starve or get evicted
8. avoid more than 2 roommates
9. have Obamacare catastrophe-ony health insurance (bare minimum)
And the only job you can get doesn't even pay for that?
That's pretty much the lifestyle of every 30 something I know who is struggling. That's also why this and student loan debt is being called a crisis, because it is. It's not like people honestly want a lifestyle that involves a McClaren and weekly trips to Bali.
- imgabe 5y ago> And the only job you can get doesn't even pay for that? Then the solution is to make yourself capable of getting other jobs.
- gotaquestion 5y agoI guess they should take on more college debt to get a programming degree, right? Or in your world, the minimum wage is just for kids, is that it? Or it is just their fault that you got lucky where something you like is high paying, and something they like and are good at pays shit?
- imgabe 5y agoYou don’t need a degree to learn programming. There are many, many other jobs besides programming that pay more than minimum wage with varying levels of requirements. People hanging drywall and digging ditches make more than minimum wage. You think everybody with a job paying more than minimum wage is doing something they love?
- all2 5y agoWelding, auto repair (though the barrier to entry is tools), HVAC, electrician, plumbing, etc. College as a "necessary tool" to get work is seriously broken. I've considered hanging up my "programming" hat and becoming a fabricator (welder, machinist, etc). Not because of the money, but because I know 1) I could make a decent wage and 2) I would enjoy the work more.