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so the takeaway here is that whilst the rest of the world enjoys the wrack and ruin of boomer excess, boomers enjoy...evermore excess? What am i supposed to ta

so the takeaway here is that whilst the rest of the world enjoys the wrack and ruin of boomer excess, boomers enjoy...evermore excess? What am i supposed to take away from this other than smouldering rage? this is an advert at best.

kurthr 5y ago
There is a whole genre of hate reads... I think some of them were originally unintentional, but more recently I think writers (like FB) have realized that lots of people will read stuff just to get angry.
oh_sigh 5y ago
You're angry that older people are living in a manner that they enjoy? The initial people profiled went there for friends, not for "evermore excess": > “In four years, we made four friends. Everyone was a part-timer. So we did some retirement math. We assessed the carrying costs.” The math, and a yearning for friends, told the Murphys to move to Margaritaville. Is this the excess you're talking about? > The housing stock, a range of villas and cottages, is, by today’s standards, compact and tasteful—single-story buildings with sensible layouts and patios that, typically screened in, can look like aviaries. Or is it the community shuttle that is the excess? > Men with guitars set up outside someone’s garage, and the golf carts appear out of nowhere. Commence the beer pong. Pool parties, poker nights, talent shows, toga parties, pig roasts. Cigar-club meeting, group renewal of wedding vows, a pub crawl in old St. Augustine. This just sounds like a nice community-minded neighborhood. People in their mid-20s commonly miss those exact aspects once they leave college and move out into "the real world". Are those 20-somethings just yearning for excess too? The fact that it enrages you, and you blame it on boomerdom, makes me think you're just a bigot who wants to blame others for your own failings. That's just my guess - I've never personally met a successful younger person who spews vitriol at boomers as a whole.
- aspenmayer 5y ago
  > The fact that it enrages you, and you blame it on boomerdom, makes me think you're just a bigot who wants to blame others for your own failings. That's just my guess - I've never personally met a successful younger person who spews vitriol at boomers as a whole. This paragraph made me wince. Success doesn’t qualify your opinions as valid or not. Personal failings don’t invalidate a logical argument either. I don’t like shallow dismissal or criticism either, but isn’t that what you’re doing here? Some of the criticism is of the inequality of success itself, and the trappings of it. Those who are successful in retirement communities are perhaps too easy a target, and an unfair one in some ways, as they have had more time to invest and accumulate wealth than their critical juniors in age. It’s fine to be critical of systems and structures that disadvantage those who are already successful, like states that don’t collect the same taxes as other states do. It’s also fine to criticize others for taking advantage of these systems. I don’t find it especially productive or convincing to direct these criticisms at an individual. Directing it at the entire group doesn’t seem ideal either, as it alienates those who may otherwise be allies. What is the solution then? I don’t know either, but wedge issues driven between generations feel like someone’s trying to pull strings and play us all for fools, devolving into infighting.
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sickygnar 5y ago
I'm not sure whats so enraging about it. Average people having fun with a goofy lifestyle? Some of the Jimmy Buffet stuff is tongue in cheek. I mean "cheeseburger in paradise?". Everything about the song is awful, and I think everyone understands its awful, but it's juvenile and fun. The margaritaville thing is a welcoming in-group. It's "who cares, don't worry about it, live and let live." Key West certainly reflected those values when I visited. I kinda get it now.
- kixiQu 5y ago
  I don't think being able to afford this is "average", and I wish my mom could.
dijonman2 5y ago
Such unfounded rage… I hope that anyone who identifies with this comment takes stock in their own life

kurthr 5y ago

There is a whole genre of hate reads... I think some of them were originally unintentional, but more recently I think writers (like FB) have realized that lots of people will read stuff just to get angry.

oh_sigh 5y ago

You're angry that older people are living in a manner that they enjoy? The initial people profiled went there for friends, not for "evermore excess": > “In four years, we made four friends. Everyone was a part-timer. So we did some retirement math. We assessed the carrying costs.” The math, and a yearning for friends, told the Murphys to move to Margaritaville. Is this the excess you're talking about? > The housing stock, a range of villas and cottages, is, by today’s standards, compact and tasteful—single-story buildings with sensible layouts and patios that, typically screened in, can look like aviaries. Or is it the community shuttle that is the excess? > Men with guitars set up outside someone’s garage, and the golf carts appear out of nowhere. Commence the beer pong. Pool parties, poker nights, talent shows, toga parties, pig roasts. Cigar-club meeting, group renewal of wedding vows, a pub crawl in old St. Augustine. This just sounds like a nice community-minded neighborhood. People in their mid-20s commonly miss those exact aspects once they leave college and move out into "the real world". Are those 20-somethings just yearning for excess too? The fact that it enrages you, and you blame it on boomerdom, makes me think you're just a bigot who wants to blame others for your own failings. That's just my guess - I've never personally met a successful younger person who spews vitriol at boomers as a whole.

aspenmayer 5y ago
> The fact that it enrages you, and you blame it on boomerdom, makes me think you're just a bigot who wants to blame others for your own failings. That's just my guess - I've never personally met a successful younger person who spews vitriol at boomers as a whole. This paragraph made me wince. Success doesn’t qualify your opinions as valid or not. Personal failings don’t invalidate a logical argument either. I don’t like shallow dismissal or criticism either, but isn’t that what you’re doing here? Some of the criticism is of the inequality of success itself, and the trappings of it. Those who are successful in retirement communities are perhaps too easy a target, and an unfair one in some ways, as they have had more time to invest and accumulate wealth than their critical juniors in age. It’s fine to be critical of systems and structures that disadvantage those who are already successful, like states that don’t collect the same taxes as other states do. It’s also fine to criticize others for taking advantage of these systems. I don’t find it especially productive or convincing to direct these criticisms at an individual. Directing it at the entire group doesn’t seem ideal either, as it alienates those who may otherwise be allies. What is the solution then? I don’t know either, but wedge issues driven between generations feel like someone’s trying to pull strings and play us all for fools, devolving into infighting.
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sickygnar 5y ago

I'm not sure whats so enraging about it. Average people having fun with a goofy lifestyle? Some of the Jimmy Buffet stuff is tongue in cheek. I mean "cheeseburger in paradise?". Everything about the song is awful, and I think everyone understands its awful, but it's juvenile and fun. The margaritaville thing is a welcoming in-group. It's "who cares, don't worry about it, live and let live." Key West certainly reflected those values when I visited. I kinda get it now.

kixiQu 5y ago
I don't think being able to afford this is "average", and I wish my mom could.

dijonman2 5y ago

Such unfounded rage… I hope that anyone who identifies with this comment takes stock in their own life