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just make sure to filter it through paper, keep french press/chemex/cowboy preparations as a once in a while treat and maybe don't have 5 cups a day, shoot for

by kyleee 5y ago

just make sure to filter it through paper, keep french press/chemex/cowboy preparations as a once in a while treat and maybe don't have 5 cups a day, shoot for one nice cup, maybe 2 sometimes

cnasc 5y ago
One of the defining features of a Chemex is the paper filter it uses
jrussino 5y ago
Doesn't Chemex use a paper filter?
- jliptzin 5y ago
  Yes. I am a huge fan of chemex coffee. I have tried a lot of different machines and the simple chemex always comes out on top.
xupybd 5y ago
Can I ask what role the paper plays? Is it that the granules cause health problems?
- tilt_error 5y ago
  The filter stops cholesterols which are abundant in coffee.
  - eurasiantiger 5y ago
    It doesn’t block cafestol, which increases cholesterol synthesis. Fun fact: not all cholesterol is bad; it’s only the LDL, while HDL is thought to be good for the heart.
    - anonuser123456 5y ago
      Funner facts; HDL is not protective. It correlates negatively with poor glucose control. That is, people with low HDL have impaired glucose control, but raising HDL doesn’t bring any benefit. LDL concentration isn’t meaningful at an individual level. LDL particle counts however are. Lots of small LDL particles are way more atherogenic than a few large particles, given a constant density.
  - nkurz 5y ago
    I don't think this is true. While it's possible that coffee can raise cholesterol levels, it doesn't actual contain any. Here's what the top result off Google for [coffee cholesterol] says: Though brewed coffee does not contain actual cholesterol, it does have two natural oils that contain chemical compounds -- cafestol and kahweol -- which can raise cholesterol levels. https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/coffee-cholesterol-connection https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/coffee-choleste... So yes, filtering probably makes a difference, but not because it's taking out "abundant" cholesterols.
    - brailsafe 5y ago
      Additionally, dietary cholesterol doesn't increase blood cholesterol levels for the most part
daveidol 5y ago
What's wrong with french press?
- stubish 5y ago
  Other studies have shown a correlation with mortality and filtered/unfiltered coffee. Which goes a long way to explaining how some coffee studies showed benefits and others problems, because the studies tended to be regional and were studying slightly different things. https://www.wellandgood.com/unfiltered-coffee-study/ https://www.wellandgood.com/unfiltered-coffee-study/ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2047487320914443 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20474873209144...
karaterobot 5y ago
What's the basis for those statements? Especially the "five cups a day" one. The article says otherwise, which is one of the interesting things about it. > Importantly, consuming any amount of coffee was not associated with a higher risk of heart rhythm problems, including atrial fibrillation (AFib) or atrial flutter, which Kistler said is often what clinicians are concerned about. I'm also looking at the Wikipedia article on the health effects of coffee, and it seems like 4 cups a day is sort of the sweet spot for a lot of positive effects, but I don't see anything about more than that being bad in most cases. > A 2012 meta-analysis concluded that people who drank moderate amounts of coffee had a lower rate of heart failure, with the biggest effect found for those who drank more than four cups a day. Five cup a day drinker over here, so I'd love to know if you have conflicting sources.
- esperent 5y ago
  This term "cup" is kind of problematic though. 4 espressos? Which have about 120mg of caffeine each. Or 4 starbuck large size? Which have something like 400mg of caffeine.
  - algoatecorn 5y ago
    The general convention is that a cup of coffee represents 80-100mg of caffeine, usually in the form of 8oz drip coffee = 1 US cup
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  Caffeine can raise intraocular pressure which puts you at increased risk from glaucoma - especially if you already have a genetic predisposition for it.
- bmn__ 5y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22978219 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22978219
JimTheMan 5y ago
It's super addictive (at least for me). I'll go from one cup a day to 5 in a flash, and wonder why I'm anxious all the time.

by kyleee 5y ago

just make sure to filter it through paper, keep french press/chemex/cowboy preparations as a once in a while treat and maybe don't have 5 cups a day, shoot for one nice cup, maybe 2 sometimes

cnasc 5y ago

One of the defining features of a Chemex is the paper filter it uses

jrussino 5y ago

Doesn't Chemex use a paper filter?

jliptzin 5y ago
Yes. I am a huge fan of chemex coffee. I have tried a lot of different machines and the simple chemex always comes out on top.

xupybd 5y ago

Can I ask what role the paper plays? Is it that the granules cause health problems?

tilt_error 5y ago
The filter stops cholesterols which are abundant in coffee.
- eurasiantiger 5y ago
  It doesn’t block cafestol, which increases cholesterol synthesis. Fun fact: not all cholesterol is bad; it’s only the LDL, while HDL is thought to be good for the heart.
  - anonuser123456 5y ago
    Funner facts; HDL is not protective. It correlates negatively with poor glucose control. That is, people with low HDL have impaired glucose control, but raising HDL doesn’t bring any benefit. LDL concentration isn’t meaningful at an individual level. LDL particle counts however are. Lots of small LDL particles are way more atherogenic than a few large particles, given a constant density.
- nkurz 5y ago
  I don't think this is true. While it's possible that coffee can raise cholesterol levels, it doesn't actual contain any. Here's what the top result off Google for [coffee cholesterol] says: Though brewed coffee does not contain actual cholesterol, it does have two natural oils that contain chemical compounds -- cafestol and kahweol -- which can raise cholesterol levels. https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/coffee-cholesterol-connection https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/coffee-choleste... So yes, filtering probably makes a difference, but not because it's taking out "abundant" cholesterols.
  - brailsafe 5y ago
    Additionally, dietary cholesterol doesn't increase blood cholesterol levels for the most part

daveidol 5y ago

What's wrong with french press?

stubish 5y ago
Other studies have shown a correlation with mortality and filtered/unfiltered coffee. Which goes a long way to explaining how some coffee studies showed benefits and others problems, because the studies tended to be regional and were studying slightly different things. https://www.wellandgood.com/unfiltered-coffee-study/ https://www.wellandgood.com/unfiltered-coffee-study/ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2047487320914443 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20474873209144...

karaterobot 5y ago

What's the basis for those statements? Especially the "five cups a day" one. The article says otherwise, which is one of the interesting things about it. > Importantly, consuming any amount of coffee was not associated with a higher risk of heart rhythm problems, including atrial fibrillation (AFib) or atrial flutter, which Kistler said is often what clinicians are concerned about. I'm also looking at the Wikipedia article on the health effects of coffee, and it seems like 4 cups a day is sort of the sweet spot for a lot of positive effects, but I don't see anything about more than that being bad in most cases. > A 2012 meta-analysis concluded that people who drank moderate amounts of coffee had a lower rate of heart failure, with the biggest effect found for those who drank more than four cups a day. Five cup a day drinker over here, so I'd love to know if you have conflicting sources.

esperent 5y ago
This term "cup" is kind of problematic though. 4 espressos? Which have about 120mg of caffeine each. Or 4 starbuck large size? Which have something like 400mg of caffeine.
- algoatecorn 5y ago
  The general convention is that a cup of coffee represents 80-100mg of caffeine, usually in the form of 8oz drip coffee = 1 US cup
ALittleLight 5y ago
Caffeine can raise intraocular pressure which puts you at increased risk from glaucoma - especially if you already have a genetic predisposition for it.
bmn__ 5y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22978219 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22978219

JimTheMan 5y ago

It's super addictive (at least for me). I'll go from one cup a day to 5 in a flash, and wonder why I'm anxious all the time.