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If you rule out anything eaten with a fork, you immediately rule out open-faced sandwiches, which as far as I know, are universally referred to as open-faced sa

If you rule out anything eaten with a fork, you immediately rule out open-faced sandwiches, which as far as I know, are universally referred to as open-faced sandwiches. You can pry my open-faced tuna melt on rye out of my cold dead hands. If you commit yourself to the carbohydrate as a protector from mess, is a messy sandwich still a sandwich? What about cucumber sandwiches (not messy on the inside)? You say a pie isn't a sandwich, but a small pie can be eaten by hand quite easily. How can the difference be just the size? What if I, with my large hands, can comfortably palm the pie and eat it like an Uncrustable, but my wife can't? Conditional sandwich? Isn't an uncrustable just a small pie.

aidenn0 5y ago
Open-faced sandwiches are sandwiches that have been transformed. You can (in theory) refold an open-faced sandwich back into a sandwich. Just like if you split the bottom of a cupcake in half and make a sandwich[1], you still are eating a cupcake. The pie thing is probably just a question of what kind of pie you are thinking of. Some pies are trivially to eat neatly in the hand, others are basically impossible (e.g. a cream-pie with a cookie-crumb crust). Also, I am completely incapable of eating an in-n-out burger at a card-table without getting very messy, but my wife can eat one with a single hand while driving and not spill a single drop of spread. It seems clear that the purpose of the bun is to prevent you from getting the messier inner ingredients on your hand, so I'm okay calling it a sandwich. 1: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/article/turn-your-cupcake-into-a-sandwich https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/article/turn-your-cupcake...
smegsicle 5y ago
> open-faced sandwiches saying an open faced sandwich is a sandwich is like saying pluto is a planet because it is a dwarf planet- wrong side of history bucko, it ceases to be a sandwich if it is to be eaten by a fork > if I can comfortably palm the pie and eat it like an Uncrustable, but my wife can't? if you eat something like a sandwich, then it is a sandwich to you, and if it is meant to be eaten like a sandwich, then it is a sandwich in general.
- _kst_ 5y ago
  The IAU (International Appetizers Union) has ruled that open faced sandwiches are in fact dwarf sandwiches, and are therefore not true sandwiches. A "giant sandwich" must have enough mass to be nearly spherical due to hydrostatic equilibrium. None have yet been discovered.
lalaithion 5y ago
...you eat open faced sandwiches with a fork and knife? I usually eat them like a pizza. But yes, if you eat it with a fork and a knife, it's not a sandwich. A messy sandwich ceases to be a sandwich as soon as it is no longer possible to eat it without your hands getting significantly less messy than if the bread weren't there. Surely no one would agree that blending a sandwich preserves its sandwichness. A small pie is a sandwich. A large pie is not. Yes, this depends on the person; I am fine with that.
tshaddox 5y ago
> you immediately rule out open-faced sandwiches, which as far as I know, are universally referred to as open-faced sandwiches. I mean, the whole reason they're called "open-faced sandwiches" is to distinguish them from, you know, sandwiches, because sandwiches aren't open-faced.
andybak 5y ago
> which as far as I know, are universally referred to as open-faced sandwiches You might have overreached with "universally". I call them "(x) on bread" - which is the logical extension of "(x) on toast" as seen in the ever popular "cheese on toast".
- andybak 5y ago
  > cheese on toast And if anyone claims it's an "open-faced toasted cheese sandwich" then I will not be happy.
  - thfuran 5y ago
    Will you then endeavor to make them also not happy?
- schwartzworld 5y ago
  OP defined pizza as a sandwich. What definition could include pizza but not cheese on toast?
memco 5y ago
> If you rule out anything eaten with a fork…. You can pry my open-faced tuna melt on rye out of my cold dead hands. Why is it in your hands and not the fork with which you’re supposed to be eating it?
dylan604 5y ago
>You can pry my open-faced tuna melt on rye out of my cold dead hands. You mean pry the plate that it is on? If it were actually in your hands, you'd have a stronger case for calling it a sandwich. The mere fact it's not actually in your hands weakens your case. At least by these definitions. IANAL though ;P

aidenn0 5y ago

Open-faced sandwiches are sandwiches that have been transformed. You can (in theory) refold an open-faced sandwich back into a sandwich. Just like if you split the bottom of a cupcake in half and make a sandwich[1], you still are eating a cupcake. The pie thing is probably just a question of what kind of pie you are thinking of. Some pies are trivially to eat neatly in the hand, others are basically impossible (e.g. a cream-pie with a cookie-crumb crust). Also, I am completely incapable of eating an in-n-out burger at a card-table without getting very messy, but my wife can eat one with a single hand while driving and not spill a single drop of spread. It seems clear that the purpose of the bun is to prevent you from getting the messier inner ingredients on your hand, so I'm okay calling it a sandwich. 1: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/article/turn-your-cupcake-into-a-sandwich https://www.bonappetit.com/recipes/article/turn-your-cupcake...

smegsicle 5y ago

> open-faced sandwiches saying an open faced sandwich is a sandwich is like saying pluto is a planet because it is a dwarf planet- wrong side of history bucko, it ceases to be a sandwich if it is to be eaten by a fork > if I can comfortably palm the pie and eat it like an Uncrustable, but my wife can't? if you eat something like a sandwich, then it is a sandwich to you, and if it is meant to be eaten like a sandwich, then it is a sandwich in general.

_kst_ 5y ago
The IAU (International Appetizers Union) has ruled that open faced sandwiches are in fact dwarf sandwiches, and are therefore not true sandwiches. A "giant sandwich" must have enough mass to be nearly spherical due to hydrostatic equilibrium. None have yet been discovered.

lalaithion 5y ago

...you eat open faced sandwiches with a fork and knife? I usually eat them like a pizza. But yes, if you eat it with a fork and a knife, it's not a sandwich. A messy sandwich ceases to be a sandwich as soon as it is no longer possible to eat it without your hands getting significantly less messy than if the bread weren't there. Surely no one would agree that blending a sandwich preserves its sandwichness. A small pie is a sandwich. A large pie is not. Yes, this depends on the person; I am fine with that.

tshaddox 5y ago

> you immediately rule out open-faced sandwiches, which as far as I know, are universally referred to as open-faced sandwiches. I mean, the whole reason they're called "open-faced sandwiches" is to distinguish them from, you know, sandwiches, because sandwiches aren't open-faced.

andybak 5y ago

> which as far as I know, are universally referred to as open-faced sandwiches You might have overreached with "universally". I call them "(x) on bread" - which is the logical extension of "(x) on toast" as seen in the ever popular "cheese on toast".

andybak 5y ago
> cheese on toast And if anyone claims it's an "open-faced toasted cheese sandwich" then I will not be happy.
- thfuran 5y ago
  Will you then endeavor to make them also not happy?
schwartzworld 5y ago
OP defined pizza as a sandwich. What definition could include pizza but not cheese on toast?

memco 5y ago

> If you rule out anything eaten with a fork…. You can pry my open-faced tuna melt on rye out of my cold dead hands. Why is it in your hands and not the fork with which you’re supposed to be eating it?

dylan604 5y ago

>You can pry my open-faced tuna melt on rye out of my cold dead hands. You mean pry the plate that it is on? If it were actually in your hands, you'd have a stronger case for calling it a sandwich. The mere fact it's not actually in your hands weakens your case. At least by these definitions. IANAL though ;P