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Mozilla Foundation is non profit. Mozilla corporation is for profit. Mitchell Baker owns it all and draws a salary from the corporation according to public rec

Mozilla Foundation is non profit. Mozilla corporation is for profit. Mitchell Baker owns it all and draws a salary from the corporation according to public records. Pretty sure the foundation owns the IP etc and the corp leases it, funneling money around. Statements are public.

Nitramp 5y ago
Mozilla corporation is fully owned by the foundation though.
stingraycharles 5y ago
While what you’re saying is factually correct, my biggest pet peeve is that Firefox is entirely owned and developed by the corporation. If I donate money to Mozilla, it ends up with the silly projects instead of the browser. To me, this is a problem, and while it’s documented somewhere, it’s not nearly communicated well enough on their website when you’re actually making a donation. As a matter of fact, it’s sometimes even downright misleading. As such, I don’t believe the corporate structure is a healthy one, and the organization(s) are not properly aligned in where the profit comes from, where they make the biggest impact in the world, and where the donations go to.
dangoor 5y ago
When you say "Mitchell Baker owns it all", you aren't claiming that Mitchell owns Mozilla Corp, are you? Mozilla Corp is owned by Mozilla Foundation, as described in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation Most Mozilla employees draw their salary from Mozilla Corp.
- dijonman2 5y ago
  Who owns the foundation?
  - dangoor 5y ago
    No one. It's a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
    - dijonman2 5y ago
      But she’s the chairwoman and has full control. I think we’re arguing semantics here. She controls everything. Including her own comp.
      - dangoor 5y ago
        That's not how non-profits work. There's a board of directors: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/who-we-are/leadership/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/who-we-are/leadership/ If the board were to decide that Mitchell's time as leader was done, they could do so.

Nitramp 5y ago

Mozilla corporation is fully owned by the foundation though.

stingraycharles 5y ago

While what you’re saying is factually correct, my biggest pet peeve is that Firefox is entirely owned and developed by the corporation. If I donate money to Mozilla, it ends up with the silly projects instead of the browser. To me, this is a problem, and while it’s documented somewhere, it’s not nearly communicated well enough on their website when you’re actually making a donation. As a matter of fact, it’s sometimes even downright misleading. As such, I don’t believe the corporate structure is a healthy one, and the organization(s) are not properly aligned in where the profit comes from, where they make the biggest impact in the world, and where the donations go to.

dangoor 5y ago

When you say "Mitchell Baker owns it all", you aren't claiming that Mitchell owns Mozilla Corp, are you? Mozilla Corp is owned by Mozilla Foundation, as described in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation Most Mozilla employees draw their salary from Mozilla Corp.

dijonman2 5y ago
Who owns the foundation?
- dangoor 5y ago
  No one. It's a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
  - dijonman2 5y ago
    But she’s the chairwoman and has full control. I think we’re arguing semantics here. She controls everything. Including her own comp.
    - dangoor 5y ago
      That's not how non-profits work. There's a board of directors: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/who-we-are/leadership/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/who-we-are/leadership/ If the board were to decide that Mitchell's time as leader was done, they could do so.