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Was talking with a friend about the peacenotwar thing. I think its pretty interesting to view so many of the decisions like this through the “we have to do som
by fattless 5y ago
Was talking with a friend about the peacenotwar thing.
I think its pretty interesting to view so many of the decisions like this through the “we have to do something” mindset so many people have, especially on social media.
All of these companies shutting down in Russia, people pressuring others to take a stand or shut down their services, upset the population. On HN I remember the namecheap thing and the service that allows westerners to call random Russians and inform them. On paper these seem like solid moves, but I cant help but feel like its only harming the citizens, and potentially irresponsible in a place where someone faces consequences for speaking out. I dont think anyone is going to risk their lives and take notable action because they need to find another service for their website, or some random foreigner telling them their government is lying. Of course these issues are more complicated, and taking these actions isnt a bad thing necessarily, namecheap has offices in Ukraine so they are going to take it personally, but there have been many cases where the company does it out of nowhere. These actions are inconveniencing the population, and when taken to the extreme like with peacenotwar, potentially very harmful. And I dont know if its doing much else. Yet too many people are acting like inaction is unacceptable.
I understand, you feel powerless in situations like these, but that shouldn’t stand in the way of making smart decisions. The need to do something has been pressuring people to take actions without considering the actual consequences vs the intent.
- fattless 5y agoSomewhat related, but I have talked about this twitter thread a few times recently Essentially, this someone was working at a homeless community shelter, and often found the bathroom completely destroyed. Paper everywhere, missing the toilet, intentional destruction and trying to make it as messy as possible. Every time they would clean it it would just get trashed once again They had a theory that being trapped in that kind of situation gives them so little control that their brain wanted to take control over something however it can, which lead to the bathroom situations. They related this to “cancel culture”, needing to call out people for the littlest things, or the loss of direction in social justice, but I find it applies to a lot more than that. My device is freaking out rn, cant pull up a link, but if you search for “the trashed bathroom thread” you should be able to find it. Maybe got it?: https://twitter.com/tercicatrix/status/1376210092492791809?lang=en https://twitter.com/tercicatrix/status/1376210092492791809?l...
- eckesicle 5y agoSanctions and boycotts are unfortunately blunt. Yet, every citizen in Russia pays russian taxes. Tax rubles funds the war. Taxes are paid equally by those who support the war, and by those who oppose it. The end result is the same - bombs on Ukrainian maternity wards. It is a shame that the innocent have to suffer, but I'd rather impose sanctions and boycotts and see a smaller number of bombs rain down over Ukraine. For this reason, I support every move to cut off anyone in Russia from any and all foreign products and services (perhaps with the exception of medical supplies and children's toys, but the principle stands). In aggregate all these small actions are having a very real impact on Russia's ability to conduct the war.
- fattless 5y agoYeah, I probably should have clarified. I'm 100% for the sanctions and they are effective given the state if their economy rn. That directly effects the way they fight the war, with the civilian harm being an unfortunate side effect. I was referring to the more meaningless actions that don't effect the Russian government or military to any significant degree, to attempt to upset the people and encourage them to speak out.
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