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Getting worked up enough about a random internet comment to go to that length to try to humiliate the person is immature. Especially with a fraudulent job appli

Getting worked up enough about a random internet comment to go to that length to try to humiliate the person is immature. Especially with a fraudulent job application. Here, let's try something out: Neatze, I think you're a big ol idiot. Now, what is your response going to be? Will you just shake your head and move on with your life? Or will you try to e-stalk me, set up a fake job interview for me, just so you can get a one up on me? Probably not, because I bet you're more mature than the dude in the video.

invisible 5y ago
In a somewhat comical sense, it's pretty "mature" to draw up a contract with someone (a very "professional" thing to do) to prove a point that someone trolling on your video has no idea what they're talking about. How else could he prove the point in any other realistic manner? Calling something immature when it's a well thought-out and explored topic doesn't seem fair. He's touched on how random internet trolls hurt other YouTubers, not just him, in other videos (to show this isn't some impulsive thing).
- googlryas 5y ago
  There's nothing mature about violating contract law. It feels like fraudulent misrepresentation to me. Key aspects of fraudulent misrepresentation[0]: 1) a representation was made 2) the representation was false 3) that when made, the defendant knew that the representation was false or that the defendant made the statement recklessly without knowledge of its truth 4) that the fraudulent misrepresentation was made with the intention that the plaintiff rely on it 5) that the plaintiff did rely on the fraudulent misrepresentation 6) that the plaintiff suffered harm as a result of the fraudulent misrepresentation [0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation
  - invisible 5y ago
    I don’t think Will committed fraudulent misrepresentation, if that could even apply or if this somehow caused harm. Either way, who said violating contract law was immature? Only you. Why suggest I did? What motive do you have here?
- explaingarlic 5y ago
  If you make tens of thousands of dollars a month on YouTube with AdSense, you are effectively a business. And indeed, many of these YouTubers have setup businesses in their name that receive the AdSense funds, and pay themselves a salary out of that. A company does not publicly humiliate a customer who makes a detrimental statement to its products - can you imagine the devastation from someone who is socially awkward and receives this kind of backlash for the horrific crime of speaking slightly out of line? Does your employer have a "worst employee of the month" poster with enumerated examples of all of the fuckups they made in the last month? That would be a million times less harmful than a pop-culture hack doing the same thing to you because you said something out of line. People should be free to abuse each other online, call each other all sorts of stuff and ESPECIALLY lie or stretch the truth, without facing offline scrutiny or embarrassment.
  - invisible 5y ago
    I disagree with your opinion that people should be free to abuse others online without any scrutiny offline. Especially when people claim to be experts and assert authority on subjects. Also, what is with creating these fictional scenarios about an employer punishing a customer or employee? Even if “he” were a business, he’s free to react to criticism however he chooses. My local barber chose to respond to negative reviews by chastising every single one. They still somehow have plenty of happy customers.
  - dntrkv 5y ago
    > A company does not publicly humiliate a customer who makes a detrimental statement to its products This happens quite often. It's very common to find reviews on Yelp where someone leaves a less-than-honest review and the company owner comes in and explains what a piece of shit that person was and how they aren't telling the whole story. If you come into a store and act like a dick towards the staff, you will almost certainly be publicly humiliated. It even happens with larger companies where someone goes to the media with some BS story, and then the company issues public statements about how that person is full of shit. I see nothing wrong with what William did. It may be petty, but who cares. If you don't want to be called out, don't be a troll.

invisible 5y ago

In a somewhat comical sense, it's pretty "mature" to draw up a contract with someone (a very "professional" thing to do) to prove a point that someone trolling on your video has no idea what they're talking about. How else could he prove the point in any other realistic manner? Calling something immature when it's a well thought-out and explored topic doesn't seem fair. He's touched on how random internet trolls hurt other YouTubers, not just him, in other videos (to show this isn't some impulsive thing).

googlryas 5y ago
There's nothing mature about violating contract law. It feels like fraudulent misrepresentation to me. Key aspects of fraudulent misrepresentation[0]: 1) a representation was made 2) the representation was false 3) that when made, the defendant knew that the representation was false or that the defendant made the statement recklessly without knowledge of its truth 4) that the fraudulent misrepresentation was made with the intention that the plaintiff rely on it 5) that the plaintiff did rely on the fraudulent misrepresentation 6) that the plaintiff suffered harm as a result of the fraudulent misrepresentation [0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation
- invisible 5y ago
  I don’t think Will committed fraudulent misrepresentation, if that could even apply or if this somehow caused harm. Either way, who said violating contract law was immature? Only you. Why suggest I did? What motive do you have here?
explaingarlic 5y ago
If you make tens of thousands of dollars a month on YouTube with AdSense, you are effectively a business. And indeed, many of these YouTubers have setup businesses in their name that receive the AdSense funds, and pay themselves a salary out of that. A company does not publicly humiliate a customer who makes a detrimental statement to its products - can you imagine the devastation from someone who is socially awkward and receives this kind of backlash for the horrific crime of speaking slightly out of line? Does your employer have a "worst employee of the month" poster with enumerated examples of all of the fuckups they made in the last month? That would be a million times less harmful than a pop-culture hack doing the same thing to you because you said something out of line. People should be free to abuse each other online, call each other all sorts of stuff and ESPECIALLY lie or stretch the truth, without facing offline scrutiny or embarrassment.
- invisible 5y ago
  I disagree with your opinion that people should be free to abuse others online without any scrutiny offline. Especially when people claim to be experts and assert authority on subjects. Also, what is with creating these fictional scenarios about an employer punishing a customer or employee? Even if “he” were a business, he’s free to react to criticism however he chooses. My local barber chose to respond to negative reviews by chastising every single one. They still somehow have plenty of happy customers.
- dntrkv 5y ago
  > A company does not publicly humiliate a customer who makes a detrimental statement to its products This happens quite often. It's very common to find reviews on Yelp where someone leaves a less-than-honest review and the company owner comes in and explains what a piece of shit that person was and how they aren't telling the whole story. If you come into a store and act like a dick towards the staff, you will almost certainly be publicly humiliated. It even happens with larger companies where someone goes to the media with some BS story, and then the company issues public statements about how that person is full of shit. I see nothing wrong with what William did. It may be petty, but who cares. If you don't want to be called out, don't be a troll.