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>There’s just isn’t enough checking and counter-arguing, full stop. Sure but why? Lets focus on politics as it's at the centre of all this. The usual or norma
by incomingpain 5y ago
>There’s just isn’t enough checking and counter-arguing, full stop.
Sure but why? Lets focus on politics as it's at the centre of all this.
The usual or normal stake in society is virtually no discussion about politics. Once every few years you pick a representative and then you can ignore politics because you can't change anything. You ought to be talking about that local sports team or that new tv show. This changed in recent years, I'm not really familiar with this ever happening before. Politics is beyond represented in common discussion today but you CANNOT argue. Dont dare take a side or else you get labelled an *ist.
You will also notice that all thought commanders in the field of politics are either comedians or lawyers; while the actual politicians tend to be lawyers or celebrities. None of those 3 groups are allowed to speak their mind or argue.
The battlefield of thought is where this isn't true. You can find this battleground where the comedians and lawyers interview.
The prevailing theory also has the blame on the "STEM" movement in that highly qualified people left social sciences toward STEM leaving a huge talent gap in the social sciences. In addition to the reality of social media utterly destroying mainstream media. Just look at the fall of CNN to political activists.
What does matter is that we have a new hyper awareness of politics. The left wing right wing false dichotomy has collapsed. Why is it the universities used to be for free speech and are now certainly not?
It's also super important to notice how unsuccessful major protests have been. BLM, who literally represent something clearly broken, very clearly the USA should fix their objective racist and brutal police force. The USA absolutely needs to fix the multitude of problems along these lines. However they have received absolutely no fix. They have had major protests and riots all over and nobody at all in government is willing to fix it. You're not allowed to argue or even discuss this.
However, if you try to argue or point any of this out. You become a nazi or racist or whatever ist they decide upon.
Hopefully you can see why arguing has become impossible. It's not just politics, but politics is the center. Race, Gender, Drugs, environmentalism, guns, etc. Tons of things you are simply not allowed to argue about.
OP knows this as well which is why he discusses Watermelons. He actively goes out of his way to discuss something that nobody discusses because it's the only way to avoid hitting a subject you're not allowed to discuss. He could have discussed how everyone in Toronto lives in an igloo.
Why is this happening? One side of politics has decided that society is on the brink of collapse if not extinction. This is a matter of life or death.
Unfortunately, I made a huge mistake in this post. I argued.
- PuppyTailWags 5y ago> The usual or normal stake in society is virtually no discussion about politics. Once every few years you pick a representative and then you can ignore politics because you can't change anything. You ought to be talking about that local sports team or that new tv show. This changed in recent years, I'm not really familiar with this ever happening before. I don't know at what point your depiction of "virtually no discussion about politics" ever "usual or normal". In my parents' lifetime we had political fights around interracial marriage, AIDS, and racial integration-- and that's just in the country I was born in. In the country they were born in, there was so much politics it became a massive civil conflict and they had to flee for their lives. In their grandparents' time there was already civil war and one of my grandparents was a POW, so I bet that was plenty of discussion too.
- incomingpain 5y ago>I don't know at what point your depiction of "virtually no discussion about politics" ever "usual or normal" The average person does not talk politics in normal conversation. The conversation ought to be how terrible the toronto maple laughs are doing. Or book of boba fett or new obiwan mini series. So many different subjects, politics rarely become a subject let alone dominate like it is doing today. >In my parents' lifetime we had political fights around interracial marriage, AIDS, and racial integration-- and that's just in the country I was born in. Sure you are always going to have hot topics. I'm curious, in normal conversation do you always talk about the political hot topics? You dont particularly care about $localsportsteam or whatever? >In the country they were born in, there was so much politics it became a massive civil conflict and they had to flee for their lives. Oh yes, that's precisely what's coming. Kind of the point I was alluding to. > In their grandparents' time there was already civil war and one of my grandparents was a POW, so I bet that was plenty of discussion too. Totally agree. I think we are in agreement here. Obviously I didn't spell it out to this extent.
- PuppyTailWags 5y ago> I'm curious, in normal conversation do you always talk about the political hot topics? Actually yeah, I keep track of my parents' immigration process, which is a political hot topic because they come from a non-european country and therefore their immigration status is always at risk here.