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I would advise against anyone learning Pascal, any more. I wish I had instead learned C and C++. The tooling around Pascal was phenomenal, with Turbo Pascal,

I would advise against anyone learning Pascal, any more. I wish I had instead learned C and C++. The tooling around Pascal was phenomenal, with Turbo Pascal, Borland Pascal, and Delphi. But the tooling around C++ is just as good or better now, in my opinion.

zozbot234 5y ago
I would advise against anyone learning C/C++, any more. I wish I had instead learned Go and Rust. The tooling around C++ was phenomenal, with Turbo C++, Borland C++, and C++ Builder. But the tooling around Rust is just as good or better now, in my opinion.
- VikingCoder 5y ago
  The tooling around Go and Rust is just as good or better? Really? That's a claim you're making? Walk me through which AAA games are developed in Go and Rust, just as a conversation starter.
  - guilherme-puida 5y ago
    Development of AAA games != good tooling.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    You can have a look at what Embark Studios is doing, Go and Rust are their tools of trade. https://www.embark-studios.com/ https://www.embark-studios.com/ Now if you consider them AAA class is another matter.
- lelanthran 5y ago
  > I wish I had instead learned Go and Rust. > > The tooling around C++ was phenomenal, with Turbo C++, Borland C++, and C++ Builder. But the tooling around Rust is just as good or better now, in my opinion. I know you say it's just your opinion, but that's an extraordinary claim, don't you think?
FpUser 5y ago
I know and use both. I use Delphi for desktop GUI applications and C++ for backend servers. Works like a charm. I use other languages / frameworks as well. Trying to stick to a single tool / tech is possible but not very wise.
- VikingCoder 5y ago
  Learning languages is awesome, and I highly advise it. But there's just no point in learning Pascal, as a first language, not any more.
  - FpUser 5y ago
    I learn languages for practical things, not because those are in vogue / out of it. Delphi/Lazarus allows the most painless GUI applications.

zozbot234 5y ago

I would advise against anyone learning C/C++, any more. I wish I had instead learned Go and Rust. The tooling around C++ was phenomenal, with Turbo C++, Borland C++, and C++ Builder. But the tooling around Rust is just as good or better now, in my opinion.

VikingCoder 5y ago
The tooling around Go and Rust is just as good or better? Really? That's a claim you're making? Walk me through which AAA games are developed in Go and Rust, just as a conversation starter.
- guilherme-puida 5y ago
  Development of AAA games != good tooling.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  You can have a look at what Embark Studios is doing, Go and Rust are their tools of trade. https://www.embark-studios.com/ https://www.embark-studios.com/ Now if you consider them AAA class is another matter.
lelanthran 5y ago
> I wish I had instead learned Go and Rust. > > The tooling around C++ was phenomenal, with Turbo C++, Borland C++, and C++ Builder. But the tooling around Rust is just as good or better now, in my opinion. I know you say it's just your opinion, but that's an extraordinary claim, don't you think?

FpUser 5y ago

I know and use both. I use Delphi for desktop GUI applications and C++ for backend servers. Works like a charm. I use other languages / frameworks as well. Trying to stick to a single tool / tech is possible but not very wise.

VikingCoder 5y ago
Learning languages is awesome, and I highly advise it. But there's just no point in learning Pascal, as a first language, not any more.
- FpUser 5y ago
  I learn languages for practical things, not because those are in vogue / out of it. Delphi/Lazarus allows the most painless GUI applications.