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I think we can presume the author means: goods/services I have exchanged funds for. Additionally I would point out that Gmail makes plenty of money off our da

by pempem 5y ago

I think we can presume the author means: goods/services I have exchanged funds for. Additionally I would point out that Gmail makes plenty of money off our data and we all have written about or thought about how 'users are the product'. Not sure why there's seemingly a heightened emotional response here.

msla 5y ago
There's always an answer. If you don't pay for it: "You're not the customer, you're the product." If you do pay for it: "You get what you pay for." If you pay for it and have a contract specifying you will get it: "Not worth taking it to court." If you do take it to court: "We must stop all these frivolous lawsuits!" There is always an answer.
- throwbigdata 5y ago
  Respectfully, you’re begging the question that it would be frivolous. If the contract says they must have a human respond within so much time and the company fails to do that, the lawsuit would not be frivolous to a rational person.
  - msla 5y ago
    It wouldn't be frivolous, it would be called frivolous. Like how the McDonald's coffee case was called frivolous even when it manifestly was not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau... > The plaintiff, Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman, suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant. She was hospitalized for eight days while undergoing skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. [snip] > Liebeck's attorneys argued that coffee should never be served hotter than 140 °F (60 °C), and that a number of other establishments served coffee at a substantially lower temperature than McDonald's. The attorneys presented evidence that coffee they had tested all over the city was served at a temperature at least 20°F (11°C) lower than McDonald's coffee. They also presented the jury with expert testimony that 190 °F (88 °C) coffee may produce third-degree burns (where skin grafting is necessary) in about three seconds and 180 °F (82 °C) coffee may produce such burns in about twelve to fifteen seconds.

by pempem 5y ago

msla 5y ago

There's always an answer. If you don't pay for it: "You're not the customer, you're the product." If you do pay for it: "You get what you pay for." If you pay for it and have a contract specifying you will get it: "Not worth taking it to court." If you do take it to court: "We must stop all these frivolous lawsuits!" There is always an answer.

throwbigdata 5y ago
Respectfully, you’re begging the question that it would be frivolous. If the contract says they must have a human respond within so much time and the company fails to do that, the lawsuit would not be frivolous to a rational person.
- msla 5y ago
  It wouldn't be frivolous, it would be called frivolous. Like how the McDonald's coffee case was called frivolous even when it manifestly was not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau... > The plaintiff, Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman, suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant. She was hospitalized for eight days while undergoing skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment. [snip] > Liebeck's attorneys argued that coffee should never be served hotter than 140 °F (60 °C), and that a number of other establishments served coffee at a substantially lower temperature than McDonald's. The attorneys presented evidence that coffee they had tested all over the city was served at a temperature at least 20°F (11°C) lower than McDonald's coffee. They also presented the jury with expert testimony that 190 °F (88 °C) coffee may produce third-degree burns (where skin grafting is necessary) in about three seconds and 180 °F (82 °C) coffee may produce such burns in about twelve to fifteen seconds.