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Why it is immature ?

by neatze 5y ago

0x_rs 5y ago
If you watched the video, I'll have to be the one asking you — why do you think looking up somebody from your comments section, making them sign agreements under a false pretence and setting up an interview, and then making fun of this individual talking about how "embarassing" he is in your videos is not immature? I won't even begin talking about brigading against somebody when you have a vast user base. Content creators have some unwritten responsibilities and such acts are uncommon because they usually do not fall into these things trying to make "a point".
- jaykk 5y ago
  well, this specific commentor claimed to be an expert on this topic...
  - Maursault 5y ago
    It is irrelevant who said what, only what was said. It is not possible to validly counter an argument by attacking the man, which is why ad hominem is a fallacy. The logical way to have approached this is to ignore the man and point out the argument from authority, also a fallacy.
oh_sigh 5y ago
Getting worked up enough about a random internet comment to go to that length to try to humiliate the person is immature. Especially with a fraudulent job application. Here, let's try something out: Neatze, I think you're a big ol idiot. Now, what is your response going to be? Will you just shake your head and move on with your life? Or will you try to e-stalk me, set up a fake job interview for me, just so you can get a one up on me? Probably not, because I bet you're more mature than the dude in the video.
- invisible 5y ago
  In a somewhat comical sense, it's pretty "mature" to draw up a contract with someone (a very "professional" thing to do) to prove a point that someone trolling on your video has no idea what they're talking about. How else could he prove the point in any other realistic manner? Calling something immature when it's a well thought-out and explored topic doesn't seem fair. He's touched on how random internet trolls hurt other YouTubers, not just him, in other videos (to show this isn't some impulsive thing).
  - googlryas 5y ago
    There's nothing mature about violating contract law. It feels like fraudulent misrepresentation to me. Key aspects of fraudulent misrepresentation[0]: 1) a representation was made 2) the representation was false 3) that when made, the defendant knew that the representation was false or that the defendant made the statement recklessly without knowledge of its truth 4) that the fraudulent misrepresentation was made with the intention that the plaintiff rely on it 5) that the plaintiff did rely on the fraudulent misrepresentation 6) that the plaintiff suffered harm as a result of the fraudulent misrepresentation [0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation
    - invisible 5y ago
      I don’t think Will committed fraudulent misrepresentation, if that could even apply or if this somehow caused harm. Either way, who said violating contract law was immature? Only you. Why suggest I did? What motive do you have here?
  - explaingarlic 5y ago
    If you make tens of thousands of dollars a month on YouTube with AdSense, you are effectively a business. And indeed, many of these YouTubers have setup businesses in their name that receive the AdSense funds, and pay themselves a salary out of that. A company does not publicly humiliate a customer who makes a detrimental statement to its products - can you imagine the devastation from someone who is socially awkward and receives this kind of backlash for the horrific crime of speaking slightly out of line? Does your employer have a "worst employee of the month" poster with enumerated examples of all of the fuckups they made in the last month? That would be a million times less harmful than a pop-culture hack doing the same thing to you because you said something out of line. People should be free to abuse each other online, call each other all sorts of stuff and ESPECIALLY lie or stretch the truth, without facing offline scrutiny or embarrassment.

Why it is immature ?

by neatze 5y ago

Why it is immature ?

If you watched the video, I'll have to be the one asking you — why do you think looking up somebody from your comments section, making them sign agreements under a false pretence and setting up an interview, and then making fun of this individual talking about how "embarassing" he is in your videos is not immature? I won't even begin talking about brigading against somebody when you have a vast user base. Content creators have some unwritten responsibilities and such acts are uncommon because they usually do not fall into these things trying to make "a point".

jaykk 5y ago
well, this specific commentor claimed to be an expert on this topic...
- Maursault 5y ago
  It is irrelevant who said what, only what was said. It is not possible to validly counter an argument by attacking the man, which is why ad hominem is a fallacy. The logical way to have approached this is to ignore the man and point out the argument from authority, also a fallacy.

oh_sigh 5y ago

Getting worked up enough about a random internet comment to go to that length to try to humiliate the person is immature. Especially with a fraudulent job application. Here, let's try something out: Neatze, I think you're a big ol idiot. Now, what is your response going to be? Will you just shake your head and move on with your life? Or will you try to e-stalk me, set up a fake job interview for me, just so you can get a one up on me? Probably not, because I bet you're more mature than the dude in the video.

invisible 5y ago
In a somewhat comical sense, it's pretty "mature" to draw up a contract with someone (a very "professional" thing to do) to prove a point that someone trolling on your video has no idea what they're talking about. How else could he prove the point in any other realistic manner? Calling something immature when it's a well thought-out and explored topic doesn't seem fair. He's touched on how random internet trolls hurt other YouTubers, not just him, in other videos (to show this isn't some impulsive thing).
- googlryas 5y ago
  There's nothing mature about violating contract law. It feels like fraudulent misrepresentation to me. Key aspects of fraudulent misrepresentation[0]: 1) a representation was made 2) the representation was false 3) that when made, the defendant knew that the representation was false or that the defendant made the statement recklessly without knowledge of its truth 4) that the fraudulent misrepresentation was made with the intention that the plaintiff rely on it 5) that the plaintiff did rely on the fraudulent misrepresentation 6) that the plaintiff suffered harm as a result of the fraudulent misrepresentation [0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation
  - invisible 5y ago
    I don’t think Will committed fraudulent misrepresentation, if that could even apply or if this somehow caused harm. Either way, who said violating contract law was immature? Only you. Why suggest I did? What motive do you have here?
- explaingarlic 5y ago
  If you make tens of thousands of dollars a month on YouTube with AdSense, you are effectively a business. And indeed, many of these YouTubers have setup businesses in their name that receive the AdSense funds, and pay themselves a salary out of that. A company does not publicly humiliate a customer who makes a detrimental statement to its products - can you imagine the devastation from someone who is socially awkward and receives this kind of backlash for the horrific crime of speaking slightly out of line? Does your employer have a "worst employee of the month" poster with enumerated examples of all of the fuckups they made in the last month? That would be a million times less harmful than a pop-culture hack doing the same thing to you because you said something out of line. People should be free to abuse each other online, call each other all sorts of stuff and ESPECIALLY lie or stretch the truth, without facing offline scrutiny or embarrassment.