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Or, you know, I’ll never touch Vue.js again?

by bnt 5y ago

JumpCrisscross 5y ago
Charitably, it creates a new friction for Russian business in deploying open-source software. That drag further diminishes Russia’s economy, and thus, its warmaking ability.
- FerociousTimes 5y ago
  At best, this operation could be construed as an act of vandalism or at worst an act of CYBER terrorism. This indiscriminate and malicious act of hostility was carried by what amounted to be a cyber weapon (think IED) housed in a very ordinary and non-suspicious package to cause the greatest damage to the users' data.
  - JumpCrisscross 5y ago
    > this operation could be construed as an act of vandalism or at worst an act of CYBER terrorism Could be. But by whom? To what effect? One of the downsides of losing credibility as a nation state is the concepts of deference, retaliation and proportionality lose weight. There is no indication that the facts on the ground would affect whether Putin deems something a cyber attack. Worse, one's own policing actions are likely to cause more damage as propaganda pieces than ignoring the issue. Yes, in an international law framework this would be prosecuted in the U.S. But in that framework Russia wouldn't be in Ukraine. Add to that it's tacit approval of its own hackers, and it's difficult--in a realpolitik frame--to find support for doing anything about this other than minor finger wagging.
    - FerociousTimes 5y ago
      > Could be. But by whom? To what effect? The general public. I speculate that publicity was one of the main objectives behind this operation to draw attention to his political grievances and maybe demands. Perhaps we should focus more on the issue of bragging rights. The perpetrator probably thinks he's some kind of a hero having conducted this operation and it was some kind of a heroic feat sticking up to Putin when he in fact is more of a lousy vandal destroying some poor guy's store window than an epic warrior conquering foreign lands and subduing evil emperors. The more people realize this and esp. people who are prone to commit these acts, the more innocent people would be spared the damage incurred by those reckless attacks.
- rrsmtz 5y ago
  This is the line that every extremist group uses to justify their horrible acts. Weaponizing open source is such an awful precedent. There are extremist groups of every shade who harbor ill intent towards some other group or institution. For a rather mundane example: "My malicious npm module detects you are running the Brave browser? The evil Brendan Eich runs that, say goodbye to your filesystem!" Never mind if you are part of a group that is mired in controversy, chief among them at this time being Russian.
  - vkou 5y ago
    > This is the line that every extremist group uses to justify their horrible acts. And in this case the 'horrible act' is not wanting your free labour to be used in another country.
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- maccolgan 5y ago
  This isn't a charitable take, you have reinvented total war from the first principles. If all of the currently in war countries start engaging in total war, the world wouldn't be worth living in.

Or, you know, I’ll never touch Vue.js again?

by bnt 5y ago

Or, you know, I’ll never touch Vue.js again?

Charitably, it creates a new friction for Russian business in deploying open-source software. That drag further diminishes Russia’s economy, and thus, its warmaking ability.

FerociousTimes 5y ago
At best, this operation could be construed as an act of vandalism or at worst an act of CYBER terrorism. This indiscriminate and malicious act of hostility was carried by what amounted to be a cyber weapon (think IED) housed in a very ordinary and non-suspicious package to cause the greatest damage to the users' data.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  > this operation could be construed as an act of vandalism or at worst an act of CYBER terrorism Could be. But by whom? To what effect? One of the downsides of losing credibility as a nation state is the concepts of deference, retaliation and proportionality lose weight. There is no indication that the facts on the ground would affect whether Putin deems something a cyber attack. Worse, one's own policing actions are likely to cause more damage as propaganda pieces than ignoring the issue. Yes, in an international law framework this would be prosecuted in the U.S. But in that framework Russia wouldn't be in Ukraine. Add to that it's tacit approval of its own hackers, and it's difficult--in a realpolitik frame--to find support for doing anything about this other than minor finger wagging.
  - FerociousTimes 5y ago
    > Could be. But by whom? To what effect? The general public. I speculate that publicity was one of the main objectives behind this operation to draw attention to his political grievances and maybe demands. Perhaps we should focus more on the issue of bragging rights. The perpetrator probably thinks he's some kind of a hero having conducted this operation and it was some kind of a heroic feat sticking up to Putin when he in fact is more of a lousy vandal destroying some poor guy's store window than an epic warrior conquering foreign lands and subduing evil emperors. The more people realize this and esp. people who are prone to commit these acts, the more innocent people would be spared the damage incurred by those reckless attacks.
rrsmtz 5y ago
This is the line that every extremist group uses to justify their horrible acts. Weaponizing open source is such an awful precedent. There are extremist groups of every shade who harbor ill intent towards some other group or institution. For a rather mundane example: "My malicious npm module detects you are running the Brave browser? The evil Brendan Eich runs that, say goodbye to your filesystem!" Never mind if you are part of a group that is mired in controversy, chief among them at this time being Russian.
- vkou 5y ago
  > This is the line that every extremist group uses to justify their horrible acts. And in this case the 'horrible act' is not wanting your free labour to be used in another country.
- deleted 5y ago
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maccolgan 5y ago
This isn't a charitable take, you have reinvented total war from the first principles. If all of the currently in war countries start engaging in total war, the world wouldn't be worth living in.