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> brew install step The audacity of mac users who think everyone uses a mac.

by withinboredom 5y ago

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dljsjr 5y ago
Brew has been available on Linux for a long time and works very very well.
- withinboredom 5y ago
  There are other OSes than Linux and MacOS, in fact, one of those other OSes is far more popular than both of those put together: Windows. It has built-in openSSH support since 2018.
  - tomrod 5y ago
    I'd argue windows isn't terribly popular, in that popular means "people like it more than not", but rather is used often, if grudgingly, by folks who have experienced alternatives or are unaware objectively better options exist.
    - withinboredom 5y ago
      I use Linux (baremetal on a System76 machine, and WSL) and Windows daily. I can’t stand OSX. As in literally want to trash it and the device it’s installed on within 10m. It’s a beautiful OS, but as a windows manager, it’s literally unusable; at least with a QWERTY keyboard. Like what genius put cmd+q right beside cmd+a, with cmd+q not even prompting the user? I could rant for days… so I’m just going to stop.
      - tomrod 5y ago
        I also use Linux -- when clients require OSX on furnished equipment I cringe a bit :) There are orders of magnitudes of UX difference between how poor Windows is versus OSX and Linux, in my mind. OSX is still worse than Linux, in part because of the inconsistency of key mappings and lack of options to make things consistent.
  - dljsjr 5y ago
    And they have an open issue for producing a chocolatey package: https://github.com/smallstep/cli/issues/365 https://github.com/smallstep/cli/issues/365
- loudmax 5y ago
  Sure, but if you're not on a Mac, brew shouldn't be the first tool you reach for. You can use brew if you've transitioning from Mac and you need to time to get acclimated, or if the software hasn't been integrated into an the local OS's package management system yet. Having said that, `brew` appears once in passing in the entire article. This article is almost completely about ssh without regard to platform. There's nothing "audacious" about suggesting users use brew, so the anti Apple sniping here is entirely unwarranted.
tomrod 5y ago
Right? Most folks just need dnf.
wintermutestwin 5y ago
The same audacity of how tos with "apt get" while lacking any distro specific language. Linux desperately needs a standard for writing how tos. Even better would be definitive how tos for every common thing a user might need to do being posted and maintained on a distro owned site.
jdoss 5y ago
I work at smallstep and we support a wide range of Linux distros already. https://smallstep.com/docs/step-cli/installation https://smallstep.com/docs/step-cli/installation One of the things on my punch list is to get step CLI into upstream Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu to make installation a bit more easy.
ARandomerDude 5y ago
Bro you almost made me spit out my latte.
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> brew install step The audacity of mac users who think everyone uses a mac.

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dljsjr 5y ago

Brew has been available on Linux for a long time and works very very well.

withinboredom 5y ago
There are other OSes than Linux and MacOS, in fact, one of those other OSes is far more popular than both of those put together: Windows. It has built-in openSSH support since 2018.
- tomrod 5y ago
  I'd argue windows isn't terribly popular, in that popular means "people like it more than not", but rather is used often, if grudgingly, by folks who have experienced alternatives or are unaware objectively better options exist.
  - withinboredom 5y ago
    I use Linux (baremetal on a System76 machine, and WSL) and Windows daily. I can’t stand OSX. As in literally want to trash it and the device it’s installed on within 10m. It’s a beautiful OS, but as a windows manager, it’s literally unusable; at least with a QWERTY keyboard. Like what genius put cmd+q right beside cmd+a, with cmd+q not even prompting the user? I could rant for days… so I’m just going to stop.
    - tomrod 5y ago
      I also use Linux -- when clients require OSX on furnished equipment I cringe a bit :) There are orders of magnitudes of UX difference between how poor Windows is versus OSX and Linux, in my mind. OSX is still worse than Linux, in part because of the inconsistency of key mappings and lack of options to make things consistent.
- dljsjr 5y ago
  And they have an open issue for producing a chocolatey package: https://github.com/smallstep/cli/issues/365 https://github.com/smallstep/cli/issues/365
loudmax 5y ago
Sure, but if you're not on a Mac, brew shouldn't be the first tool you reach for. You can use brew if you've transitioning from Mac and you need to time to get acclimated, or if the software hasn't been integrated into an the local OS's package management system yet. Having said that, `brew` appears once in passing in the entire article. This article is almost completely about ssh without regard to platform. There's nothing "audacious" about suggesting users use brew, so the anti Apple sniping here is entirely unwarranted.

tomrod 5y ago

Right? Most folks just need dnf.

wintermutestwin 5y ago

The same audacity of how tos with "apt get" while lacking any distro specific language. Linux desperately needs a standard for writing how tos. Even better would be definitive how tos for every common thing a user might need to do being posted and maintained on a distro owned site.

jdoss 5y ago

I work at smallstep and we support a wide range of Linux distros already. https://smallstep.com/docs/step-cli/installation https://smallstep.com/docs/step-cli/installation One of the things on my punch list is to get step CLI into upstream Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu to make installation a bit more easy.

ARandomerDude 5y ago

Bro you almost made me spit out my latte.

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