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Even with that, the overall population of the US increased by 0.1%. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/us-population-grew-in-2021-slowest-rate-sinc

Even with that, the overall population of the US increased by 0.1%. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/us-population-grew-in-2021-slowest-rate-since-founding-of-the-nation.html https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/us-population...

mensetmanusman 5y ago
Which is probably the slowest ever in the history of the US.
Retric 5y ago
In 2021 immigrants added 0.27% to the population which otherwise fell by 0.17%, which is the continuation of a long term trend. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/net-migration https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/net-...
- georgyo 5y ago
  2021 saw a huge drop in immigration according to census data as well. You are correct that immigration was a large factor why the population grew overall. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/us-population-grew-in-2021-slowest-rate-since-founding-of-the-nation/_jcr_content/root/responsivegrid/imagecore_copy.coreimg.jpeg/1639771569230/us-population-grew-in-2021-slowest-rate-since-founding-of-the-nation-figure-2.jpeg https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/us-population... https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/net-international-migration-at-lowest-levels-in-decades.html https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/net-internati...
  - blisterpeanuts 5y ago
    Some are predicting a mini-baby boom in the U.S. in coming months (Forbes calls it a Baby Blip) probably related to people delaying having a child during the pandemic.[1] Also, immigrants tend to have more babies than do assimilated native-born Americans, as is also true in Europe. A direct result of the recent couple of decades of immigration would be a lot of larger families among immigrants, offsetting the trend toward smaller families or childlessness among native born white Americans (the least or 2nd least fertile subset of the population -- Asian Americans have lower overall birth rates).[2][3][4] 1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenshoulberg/2021/07/11/heres-why-there-could-be-a-mini-baby-boom-in-2022/?sh=2cadff393e95 https://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenshoulberg/2021/07/11/here... 2. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/fertility-rates-in-the-united-states-by-ethnicity.html https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/fertility-rates-in-the-u... 3. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241514/birth-rate-by-ethnic-group-of-mother-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/241514/birth-rate-by-eth... 4. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_01-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_01-508.pdf
    - irrational 5y ago
      Did Forbes write this before the onset of war in Europe, high inflation, spike in gas prices, etc.?
      - blisterpeanuts 5y ago
        Before the war, yes, but after gasoline prices started rising.
    - mistrial9 5y ago
      did they say "let them eat cake" while they had those babies?
    - brimble 5y ago
      I predict we're not gonna see anything resembling a baby boom until/unless we fix healthcare. It's too expensive, otherwise. Might need subsidized or free child care, too, before it's even slightly likely. You burn $100k surprisingly fast with even a healthy kid and without splurging a bit (pre-natal care and birth, increased insurance costs afterward, child care or lost wages due to one parent staying home, et c). Throw in our mediocre public pension system and the death of significant retirement benefits at most jobs that used to have them, and if you're having a kid these days and don't make excellent money you're signing up for an unpleasant retirement. Out-of-control housing costs and the current inflation levels just make that deal even less appealing.
      - blisterpeanuts 5y ago
        People who live with or near their parents have a lot more support in terms of child care, ability to go back to work, help with chores (buying/changing diapers etc.). Regarding the question of retirement... my wife and I have raised one kid, who is now 17. We're all on my company's group plan. I haven't seen the kind of expenses you are alluding to. However, university tuition is looming, and that WILL be expensive. Luckily, we have a 429 plan, which after 17 years has grown to be a decent sum. The flip side of retirement is that children provide the parents with support in their old age. My mom, who just turned 95, has near constant attention from my sister who lives nearby. Many others I know are in the same boat - one or more children become their health advocates and protect them, and in some cases support them. Children, in my view, are a net asset, not a liability.
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- rayiner 5y ago
  You're welcome.

mensetmanusman 5y ago

Which is probably the slowest ever in the history of the US.

Retric 5y ago

In 2021 immigrants added 0.27% to the population which otherwise fell by 0.17%, which is the continuation of a long term trend. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/net-migration https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/net-...

georgyo 5y ago
2021 saw a huge drop in immigration according to census data as well. You are correct that immigration was a large factor why the population grew overall. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/us-population-grew-in-2021-slowest-rate-since-founding-of-the-nation/_jcr_content/root/responsivegrid/imagecore_copy.coreimg.jpeg/1639771569230/us-population-grew-in-2021-slowest-rate-since-founding-of-the-nation-figure-2.jpeg https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/us-population... https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/net-international-migration-at-lowest-levels-in-decades.html https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/12/net-internati...
- blisterpeanuts 5y ago
  Some are predicting a mini-baby boom in the U.S. in coming months (Forbes calls it a Baby Blip) probably related to people delaying having a child during the pandemic.[1] Also, immigrants tend to have more babies than do assimilated native-born Americans, as is also true in Europe. A direct result of the recent couple of decades of immigration would be a lot of larger families among immigrants, offsetting the trend toward smaller families or childlessness among native born white Americans (the least or 2nd least fertile subset of the population -- Asian Americans have lower overall birth rates).[2][3][4] 1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenshoulberg/2021/07/11/heres-why-there-could-be-a-mini-baby-boom-in-2022/?sh=2cadff393e95 https://www.forbes.com/sites/warrenshoulberg/2021/07/11/here... 2. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/fertility-rates-in-the-united-states-by-ethnicity.html https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/fertility-rates-in-the-u... 3. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241514/birth-rate-by-ethnic-group-of-mother-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/241514/birth-rate-by-eth... 4. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_01-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_01-508.pdf
  - irrational 5y ago
    Did Forbes write this before the onset of war in Europe, high inflation, spike in gas prices, etc.?
    - blisterpeanuts 5y ago
      Before the war, yes, but after gasoline prices started rising.
  - mistrial9 5y ago
    did they say "let them eat cake" while they had those babies?
  - brimble 5y ago
    I predict we're not gonna see anything resembling a baby boom until/unless we fix healthcare. It's too expensive, otherwise. Might need subsidized or free child care, too, before it's even slightly likely. You burn $100k surprisingly fast with even a healthy kid and without splurging a bit (pre-natal care and birth, increased insurance costs afterward, child care or lost wages due to one parent staying home, et c). Throw in our mediocre public pension system and the death of significant retirement benefits at most jobs that used to have them, and if you're having a kid these days and don't make excellent money you're signing up for an unpleasant retirement. Out-of-control housing costs and the current inflation levels just make that deal even less appealing.
    - blisterpeanuts 5y ago
      People who live with or near their parents have a lot more support in terms of child care, ability to go back to work, help with chores (buying/changing diapers etc.). Regarding the question of retirement... my wife and I have raised one kid, who is now 17. We're all on my company's group plan. I haven't seen the kind of expenses you are alluding to. However, university tuition is looming, and that WILL be expensive. Luckily, we have a 429 plan, which after 17 years has grown to be a decent sum. The flip side of retirement is that children provide the parents with support in their old age. My mom, who just turned 95, has near constant attention from my sister who lives nearby. Many others I know are in the same boat - one or more children become their health advocates and protect them, and in some cases support them. Children, in my view, are a net asset, not a liability.
- deleted 5y ago
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rayiner 5y ago
You're welcome.