This. I think -- speaking for myself mostly -- folks move to cloud for the simplicity a web interface provides. If you like, there's usually a CLI that abstract

This. I think -- speaking for myself mostly -- folks move to cloud for the simplicity a web interface provides. If you like, there's usually a CLI that abstracts the compute and other things. Self hosting -- at least whenever I did it -- was always: start with a VM, install Linux, configure ports, configure security, install a webserver, deal with the security of that, manage conf files, deploy website, etc etc Host a static page on github pages makes all that a ton easier and also free. That's a trite example sure. But when I was at a previous company who did almost everything on premises I couldn't help but think if we had an internal portal/system a la GCP's console or that of Amazon's that could be a way for devs to spin up resources and have it all managed and even be a bit programmatic (no no K8s doesn't solve all of this it's its own bag of crazy) then we'd not need cloud much since we'd not need the almost infinite scale that cloud offers.