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Afaik the director has been a dbag with his projects re contributors. Calibre and kitty. It is his project and he doesnt owe any one anything, bit i would take

Afaik the director has been a dbag with his projects re contributors. Calibre and kitty. It is his project and he doesnt owe any one anything, bit i would take my Limited OSS Aattention elsewhere.

unmole 5y ago
> Afaik the director has been a dbag with his projects re contributors. How so?
- arsdragonfly 5y ago
  AFAICT he bluntly closed the issue that asks for CJK input support in kitty. https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/462 https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/462 I understand there might be technical difficulties but his attitude is disappointingly bad.
  - unmole 5y ago
    > attitude is disappointingly bad. You'd rather he catered to every feature request?
    - tentacleuno 5y ago
      > So write a script to do it for you. I dont know what you are asking for here. I already told you glfw does not support XIM. Thid is blatantly rude and dismissive. I think people would rather he was polite. As much as I respect Mr.Goyal for his work, he does not have the right to talk down to other people because he maintains something. Please don't make excuses for someone being rude because they're a FOSS developer. I've seen it so many times on here now.
      - unmole 5y ago
        What is considered rude is entirely subjective. For instance, I feel bringing up something after being told why it wouldn't work and wasting people's time is rude. Perhaps you would have phrased it differently. But I don't buy the idea that every interaction should be sugar coated. Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.
        bheadmaster 5y ago
        A GitHub issue is not equivalent to a direct message to the developer. Other people can see GitHub issues/feature requests, and sometimes, one of them steps up and does the legwork of fixing/implementing the thing. > But I don't buy the idea that every interaction should be sugar coated. Me neither, Kovid has every right to communicate whatever way he wants to, and nobody can take that right away from him. Just as I have the right to consider him a rude [insert generic insult].
        japorized 5y ago
        I don’t think there’s a need to sugarcoat every interaction, but at the same time, we’re but living beings, who all have our share of frustrations and bad days. It takes little to speak or write something a bit softer.
    - paskozdilar 5y ago
      It is perfectly possible not to cater to every feature request, without being rude. A single sentence like this: I don't have the time, energy, desire, nor language knowledge to implement this feature. conveys completely the same information as Kovid's comments, with the benefit of not being aggressive and demeaning.
- paskozdilar 5y ago
  Also see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8213946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8213946 There are a lot of references to Kovid's aggressive manner of communication here.
  - unmole 5y ago
    These are far better examples for the point that was being made regarding his behaviour Thanks!
brainlessdev 5y ago
The maintainer can be blunt at times but from that to saying he's a "dbag"... there's a stretch. In my opinion he's one of the most expedient OSS maintainers I've seen, and has a great deal of patience with entitled users who expect him to basically do free work for them. Please don't listen to this comment and do consider contributing.
infinitezest 5y ago
As a hug fan and avid user of Kitty, I have to agree. The maintainer definitely behaves a bit like a jerk. It really is a shame because the product he made is incredibly nice.

Afaik the director has been a dbag with his projects re contributors. Calibre and kitty. It is his project and he doesnt owe any one anything, bit i would take my Limited OSS Aattention elsewhere.

unmole 5y ago

> Afaik the director has been a dbag with his projects re contributors. How so?

arsdragonfly 5y ago
AFAICT he bluntly closed the issue that asks for CJK input support in kitty. https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/462 https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/462 I understand there might be technical difficulties but his attitude is disappointingly bad.
- unmole 5y ago
  > attitude is disappointingly bad. You'd rather he catered to every feature request?
  - tentacleuno 5y ago
    > So write a script to do it for you. I dont know what you are asking for here. I already told you glfw does not support XIM. Thid is blatantly rude and dismissive. I think people would rather he was polite. As much as I respect Mr.Goyal for his work, he does not have the right to talk down to other people because he maintains something. Please don't make excuses for someone being rude because they're a FOSS developer. I've seen it so many times on here now.
    - unmole 5y ago
      What is considered rude is entirely subjective. For instance, I feel bringing up something after being told why it wouldn't work and wasting people's time is rude. Perhaps you would have phrased it differently. But I don't buy the idea that every interaction should be sugar coated. Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.
      - bheadmaster 5y ago
        A GitHub issue is not equivalent to a direct message to the developer. Other people can see GitHub issues/feature requests, and sometimes, one of them steps up and does the legwork of fixing/implementing the thing. > But I don't buy the idea that every interaction should be sugar coated. Me neither, Kovid has every right to communicate whatever way he wants to, and nobody can take that right away from him. Just as I have the right to consider him a rude [insert generic insult].
      - japorized 5y ago
        I don’t think there’s a need to sugarcoat every interaction, but at the same time, we’re but living beings, who all have our share of frustrations and bad days. It takes little to speak or write something a bit softer.
  - paskozdilar 5y ago
    It is perfectly possible not to cater to every feature request, without being rude. A single sentence like this: I don't have the time, energy, desire, nor language knowledge to implement this feature. conveys completely the same information as Kovid's comments, with the benefit of not being aggressive and demeaning.
paskozdilar 5y ago
Also see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8213946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8213946 There are a lot of references to Kovid's aggressive manner of communication here.
- unmole 5y ago
  These are far better examples for the point that was being made regarding his behaviour Thanks!

brainlessdev 5y ago

The maintainer can be blunt at times but from that to saying he's a "dbag"... there's a stretch. In my opinion he's one of the most expedient OSS maintainers I've seen, and has a great deal of patience with entitled users who expect him to basically do free work for them. Please don't listen to this comment and do consider contributing.

infinitezest 5y ago

As a hug fan and avid user of Kitty, I have to agree. The maintainer definitely behaves a bit like a jerk. It really is a shame because the product he made is incredibly nice.