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Please explain the Ukrainian propaganda to me that was deserving of this strike. Capt. America punching Hitler is propaganda. I happen to agree with it. You'll

Please explain the Ukrainian propaganda to me that was deserving of this strike. Capt. America punching Hitler is propaganda. I happen to agree with it. You'll need to be specific with me. Not all propaganda is bad, and it takes particularly bad propaganda before I think that military action is required. Would you support say, hypothetical German Bombers attacking Marvel Comics over their depiction of Capt. America?

pydry 5y ago
I dont think it's a legitimate target whatever kind of propaganda is pumped out. I think Bill Clinton is also a war criminal. The question is will you call him a war criminal or will you go quiet or bullshit an excuse for why it's ok when WE do it? Edit : He never did call him a war criminal.
- dragontamer 5y ago
  Then you're fine. My issue is about whataboutism in general. If you're man-enough to admit the fault of the situation, then you've proven your point.
  - FpUser 5y ago
    >"My issue is about whataboutism in general." Whataboutism will disappear as soon as the perpetrators get punished. If a country does some awful things and walks away free and the world looks the other way it sets the example for others.
    - dragontamer 5y ago
      I'm fine with the practice if it's 'what about x? We should fix X'. But a lot of Russian propaganda online is 'what about X? Let's ignore both X and Y'. It's just a distraction and fails to address the core point.
      - FpUser 5y ago
        I do not give a flying fuck about Russian propaganda. Or any propaganda for that matter. It is pretty easy to see through. I am much more concerned about the reality. And the reality is simple. The guy with the biggest dick and whomever he has decided to like do what they want and go unpunished and I do not see it changing. So I have no doubts that the R should an will be fixed and for good reasons. I am also pretty sure that X, Y and Z would continue do what they do and laugh all the way to the bank.
  - legalcorrection 5y ago
    I don't think you can dismiss this as just whataboutism. There is at least some recognition in every legal system that law is largely about how previous cases with similar facts have been handled. This is probably how human normative systems work. The whole point of international law is that everyone agrees to limit their own freedom of action in exchange for the other guy doing the same. Once violations are openly tolerated and even accepted as legitimate, the norms lose their compelling force.

pydry 5y ago

I dont think it's a legitimate target whatever kind of propaganda is pumped out. I think Bill Clinton is also a war criminal. The question is will you call him a war criminal or will you go quiet or bullshit an excuse for why it's ok when WE do it? Edit : He never did call him a war criminal.

dragontamer 5y ago
Then you're fine. My issue is about whataboutism in general. If you're man-enough to admit the fault of the situation, then you've proven your point.
- FpUser 5y ago
  >"My issue is about whataboutism in general." Whataboutism will disappear as soon as the perpetrators get punished. If a country does some awful things and walks away free and the world looks the other way it sets the example for others.
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    I'm fine with the practice if it's 'what about x? We should fix X'. But a lot of Russian propaganda online is 'what about X? Let's ignore both X and Y'. It's just a distraction and fails to address the core point.
    - FpUser 5y ago
      I do not give a flying fuck about Russian propaganda. Or any propaganda for that matter. It is pretty easy to see through. I am much more concerned about the reality. And the reality is simple. The guy with the biggest dick and whomever he has decided to like do what they want and go unpunished and I do not see it changing. So I have no doubts that the R should an will be fixed and for good reasons. I am also pretty sure that X, Y and Z would continue do what they do and laugh all the way to the bank.
- legalcorrection 5y ago
  I don't think you can dismiss this as just whataboutism. There is at least some recognition in every legal system that law is largely about how previous cases with similar facts have been handled. This is probably how human normative systems work. The whole point of international law is that everyone agrees to limit their own freedom of action in exchange for the other guy doing the same. Once violations are openly tolerated and even accepted as legitimate, the norms lose their compelling force.