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It's not uncommon. It was one of NATO'S first targets in Belgrade too. “Our military leaders at NATO believe … that the Serb television is an essential instrum
by pydry 5y ago
It's not uncommon. It was one of NATO'S first targets in Belgrade too.
“Our military leaders at NATO believe … that the Serb television is an essential instrument of Mr. Milosevic’s command and control. … It is not, in a conventional sense, therefore, a media outlet. That was a decision they made, and I did not reverse it.” - Clinton
The US and NATO were lavished with praise for their part in that war.
- throwawaycities 5y ago> The US and NATO were lavished with praise for their part in that war. Because Slobodan Milosevic was committing genocide. If you are suggesting Putin deserves similar praise for illegally using force in Ukraine, I’d like to ask why?
- dragontamer 5y agoYou're missing out on the key context to my central question. What was the Kyiv TV Tower broadcasting, that made it a legitimate military target?
- pydry 5y agoPropaganda, presumably. Same reason Bill killed 30 employees of a Serbian TV channel and then patted himself on the back.
- dragontamer 5y agoPlease explain the Ukrainian propaganda to me that was deserving of this strike. Capt. America punching Hitler is propaganda. I happen to agree with it. You'll need to be specific with me. Not all propaganda is bad, and it takes particularly bad propaganda before I think that military action is required. Would you support say, hypothetical German Bombers attacking Marvel Comics over their depiction of Capt. America?
- pydry 5y agoI dont think it's a legitimate target whatever kind of propaganda is pumped out. I think Bill Clinton is also a war criminal. The question is will you call him a war criminal or will you go quiet or bullshit an excuse for why it's ok when WE do it? Edit : He never did call him a war criminal.
- dragontamer 5y agoThen you're fine. My issue is about whataboutism in general. If you're man-enough to admit the fault of the situation, then you've proven your point.
- FpUser 5y ago>"My issue is about whataboutism in general." Whataboutism will disappear as soon as the perpetrators get punished. If a country does some awful things and walks away free and the world looks the other way it sets the example for others.
- dragontamer 5y agoI'm fine with the practice if it's 'what about x? We should fix X'. But a lot of Russian propaganda online is 'what about X? Let's ignore both X and Y'. It's just a distraction and fails to address the core point.
- FpUser 5y agoI do not give a flying fuck about Russian propaganda. Or any propaganda for that matter. It is pretty easy to see through. I am much more concerned about the reality. And the reality is simple. The guy with the biggest dick and whomever he has decided to like do what they want and go unpunished and I do not see it changing. So I have no doubts that the R should an will be fixed and for good reasons. I am also pretty sure that X, Y and Z would continue do what they do and laugh all the way to the bank.
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- rospaya 5y agoIronically also one of the first targets Serbs bombed in Zagreb during the previous war.